Was sitting next to a brand NEW 2013 Kenworth 660 with SS. So I had to walk around, compare.
My questions are any noticable changes in fuel economy? Traction on ice/snow/mud? Payload changes....
I recall tire guy saying I would loose 600 lbs payload on every axle? (so just over a ton total?)
I had a chance to buy some (worn) tires mounted on nice rims reasonable. I am thinking maybe I should have grabbed them. I realize they are not cheap. (but one tires replaces two) And the biggest disadvantage I have heard is if you cut/ruin a tire you are stuck (right there) where duals you can normally continue at least to next truck stop, possibly to destination if lightly loaded.
So what is general opinion?
Question on Super singles vs Duals?
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by larry_minn, May 3, 2013.
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U don't get much traction in snow with em. Ur one truck don't switch u won't see a fuel differences
larry_minn Thanks this. -
Also a problem getting tires in some areas of the country , lot of companies with them are switching back to duals .
Also with them you cannot say you drive an 18 WHEELER according to my 1 grandson -
You will gain payload going to Super Singles, as they are roughly 400lbs lighter per axle than duals... I find them to be a bit squirrely myself, and don't like them in snow. I haul fuel locally, and we have a few trucks running singles (my truck is one), and all of our new trucks are now duals... For us, the extra weight savings wasn't paying off as we weren't getting more than 100k miles out of a set of tires. You are correct about a flat/cut tire, you don't get to run down the road with a flat tire with singles... Also, plan on replacing the rim as well if you have a flat, as it will more than likely be junk if you move more than a few feet with a flat single. I'm looking forward to getting a truck with duals again. Singles are fine on a trailer, but for the application I drive in, I don't like them a great deal on the tractor.
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Pete is right, had them in the fleet awhile. Lighter yes but slick! Hydroplane and have nothing for snow / mud. Expensive and rim is usually destroyed if you blow one in flight. Not stocked everywhere either.
Hard for single o/o to realize any mileage / mpg / freight gain. Put them is a fleet and yes, adds up.
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A SS drive weights 201lbs with a 58 lb rim and rims weight rating of 12,800 lbs each vrs 175lbs for lp 22.5 and 44 lbs each rim and rim weight rating of 7,400 each
So that means super singles mounted weight 1,036lbs and duals 1,752 for a total tractor weight savings of 716. This is using mich xdn2 S/S and xdn2 duals and Alcoa wheels. All weights are from their companies web sites.
now some facts that can not be argued are. When a S/S blow for whatever reason(lets not start that fight crap does happen) you normal(I worked for 5 years in a tire shop) require a new rim as just getting from the hammer lane to the shoulder tends to ruin the rim.
The price of S/S tires and rims are a lot higher than duals that can be replaced with one tire.
Parts of this country(USA) it is next to imposible to get a S/S tire. I had a friend stuck in WY for 3 days waiting on one to get shipped in. -
Gee you basically repeated everything that was already posted .
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Thanks. Guess I will resist the temptation to go "new idea" Regards posts. I often hit reply, go onto another "window) and read that, THEN write in my reply. It can be half hr later. (so I have BTDT where I give similar answer to what someone else just posted....)
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To the OP:you can (and i feel you should) if you run SS tires,put a tyre measureringsystem on the truck>
Blow outs are predicteble with that.
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Switched my truck from duals to Michelin X-One SS Energies November 2011 and will never go back. Love them.
I do run 125 psi cold air pressure and do have tire sensors that are worth their weight in gold. Have caught 3 leak downs way before they could be problem. I went from Bridgestone M720 duals that had a great RR and picked up 3/10ths mpg.
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