Question about installing Inverter

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  1. Buckeye91

    Buckeye91 Road Train Member

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    Hey all, did a search, couldnt find a straight forward answer. For a 2,000/4,000 watt inverter, will a 150 Amp inline fuse be good? Or should I use a 200 amp? I purchased a set of 6' #2 gauge wire, per the manual. I talked to a guy at a stereo shop, he said anything between 100-200 should do the job, can anyone confirm this? Also, when you install it, do you want it right by the battery, or by the inverter? and what is the farthest from it should you go. then are they usually weather proof? or should I maybe find a way to protect it from moisture, etc.

    Another thing is in the manual, (its a Cen-tech) brand. It says to mount it horizontally, which means the plugs would be on the side, if i remember correctly, the one in my trainers truck had the plugs facing up. Does this make a difference. I have someone who knows what he is doing installing it, it seems pretty easy, once you cut the wire and add the fuse in the line. But is there anything else important I should keep an eye on? Thanks.
     
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  3. ayubirana

    ayubirana Bobtail Member

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    Well, remembering the correct formula
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    2000 continuous watts at 12 volts. 2000/12=100

    You should get a 200 amp fuse if you ever planning to use 2000 watts.
     
  4. CondoCruiser

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    Yeah use a 200 amp fuse. You always step up to the next higher fuse. Your unit has a 184 amp max draw. A 1500 watt inverter uses a 150 amp fuse and a 2500 watt uses a 250 amp fuse. See a pattern? :)

    Is your wire copper? Aluminum won't work.

    You want the fuse close as possible to the battery. They make ones that bolt straight to the battery. Amazon has good prices if you're not in a hurry. The shorter the cable length the better. Try to keep it under 4'. Up to 6' is okay before you start with a voltage drop. Coming out of the inverter it's okay to use 12' extention cords if need be. Also if you look there is a chassis ground screw on the unit. Since the unit will probably be sitting on carpet or rubber run you a short piece of like 14 or 12 AWG from the units chassis ground to the trucks chassis ground. That will protect you if the unit itself ever shorts the housing won't shock you. I drilled a small hole in the trucks floor and then used a self tapping screw to hold it. Go ahead and mount the inverter while you do that.

    It's very important when you run through the floor with the cables you use a rubber grommet and silicone. This will protect the cables from the metal rubbing a hole through the insulation. That's where most shorts happen. If you look under the floor from the outside you'll see some random holes with the plug already in them. Use one of them. Usually there is one behind the drivers seat or where the fridge goes, up under the carpet. That's why it's easier to locate from outside. If you don't have a grommet auto parts stores sell them or you can take the factory rubber plug and cut a X in it. Once you have the cables in place then silicone the grommet.

    The ideal installation would be right above the battery area. My Pete 387 the inverter was mounted right behind the drivers seat that worked out great since my fridge and microwave was right behind it. You can route the extension cords behind the cabinets and tucked in front of the mattress to get to the other side to give you an idea. Then you aren't staring at cords everywhere.

    We have some pretty good inverter installation threads. Some with pictures if you need them. Use our search feature. They are in this forum somewhere.
     
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  5. Boardhauler

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    A 2000 watt inverter means it delivers 2000 watts @ 120 volts. 2000/120=16.66 amps. A 20 amp fuse is correct, not 200. A 200 will burn the truck down. Think about it. Most houses don't have 200 amp main breakers.
     
  6. CondoCruiser

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    He's talking about protecting the cables. DC not AC. There's a difference. The unit itself has built in protection for the AC output.

    Here's the Cobra website FAQs. Look under Fuse Recommendations.

    https://www.cobra.com/support/faqs/power-inverters



    The Cobra CPI2500 uses four 4awg cables which is equivalent to two 2AWG like the OP's unit. 1500 watt uses 4 AWG while 2000 watts and 2500 watts use 2 AWG .

    From all the inverters I've seen the cable mount holes on the inverter are the exact size of the wire needed. If your wire is too small in the hole or too big to go in the hole you have the wrong size.
     
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  8. Buckeye91

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    I like the idea of them in line circuit breakers, but what Im noticing is that they are mad for 4 gauge wire, I cant seem to find a in line circuit breaker that takes 2 gauge wire for 200 amp. But there is this one that says accepts 1/0 gauge or 4 gauge, if im not mistaken, arent those a big difference in thickness? http://www.amazon.com/Stinger-SGP90200-200-Circuit-Breaker/dp/B003NYHCQ0

    I did find this though, its a circuit breaker where you can attach the wire using the eyelids from the wire http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scosche-200...788?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item232c106ebc

    Then there is this thing that looks pretty cool, one end bolts right on your batterys stud, it uses a different type of fuse. A bit pricey. http://www.amazon.com/Stinger-SGP90200-200-Circuit-Breaker/dp/B003NYHCQ0 Here is the fuse it takes http://www.bluesea.com/products/5187/MRBF_Terminal_Fuse_-_200A

    Let me know what yall think

    Right now I have 6' 2 gauge wire that i bought from harbor freight, the hole thats drilled behind the drivers seat is right above the batteries, so Im going to have some extra wire. but im not over 6 feet, so i figured it'd be fine.

    As far as a 200 amp being good for 2,000 watt continuous, is it also good for up to 4,000 watt surge?

    Also, someone said to run a ground cable to the chassis if youre putting the inverter on the floor. I am going to screw it to the side of the plastic cupboard right behind the drivers seat, so itll be off the floor, do i still need to run a ground to the chassis?
     
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  9. ipogsd

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    You are flat out wrong and you shouldn't give advise on something you know little about.
     
  10. Dr_Fandango44

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    You're correct with your assessment. You want the inverter to blow if it gets overloaded. If you have too much of a fuse, it certain will burn up. The fuse is there to protect everything. 200 amp fuse is way too much
    i have a 20 amp fuse. Never had a problem yet.
     
  11. ipogsd

    ipogsd Heavy Load Member

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    I don't really care for circuit breakers for this application as they are mechanical and therefor subject to failure. Use the inline fuse type, easy to install. Yes run a ground wire from ground post on inverter to frame, short straight runs of wire are best. You should cut and re-terminate wire if you have extra. 2000/12=166 amps. I'd go with a 150 amp.
     
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