Question about emergency vehicles

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Yost69, Feb 4, 2011.

  1. Yost69

    Yost69 Light Load Member

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    I know there are several emts and past emts on this board. Also would like to know what others do in this situation.

    I was reading another thread about a firetruck and people not moving over and it go me thinking.

    When your cruising up the interstate at whatever speed you cruise at, I usually drive 6 to 7 miles over the limit, and an emergency vehicle is coming down the on ramp not quite ready to merge and only doing about 30 - 40 mph as it seems like it takes forever for those things to get up to speed.

    What are you supposed to do. I know the law states to yield to emergency vehicles but is it really safe to go from 65 to 30 with traffic behind you?

    What is the courtious thing to do?


    Bear in mind that sometimes you see the lights reflections but not the actual vehicle until your right next to the ramp.

    It has happened to me twice in the last couple years and I drive almost exclusively at night so not much traffic. This is what I do. As soon as I see the lights reflections I start making my way to the far left lane as soon as I can get there. I lift off the accelerator until I can get a bearing on where the vehicle is exactly and make my desicion from there.

    If the vehicle is coming onto the highway I slow way down because I don't know if they are heading for the u-turn in the median or if they are going up the road.

    But if they are not even ready to come onto the road I hammer down and see what happens a couple miles up the road if they catch up to me I would slow and let them pass, if they don't then I just keep on going like nothing ever happened. Both times that I remember this happening they have either turned or for lack of a better statement I "outran" them because I never saw them again.

    I know legaly your not allowed to pass an emergency vehicle with its lights on but is it still considered passing if they are not on the road?

    Am I one of the inconsiderate a--holes for doing it this way?

    One time I was on md32 and a firetruck came off of 95 behind me. Well I was pulling away from him so I didnt stop or slow down and we raced up the road granted i was doing 55 mph which is the posted so it wasnt much of a race and had he caught up with me I would of slowed way down and let him pass, but he never caught up with me. And he wasnt directly on me he was probably half a mile or more back. I passed a cop sitting in the median but he never even looked at me.

    What was I supposed to do in that situation? Had the cop pulled me over for failure to yield I guess I would know for sure huh?

    I honestly don't know what to do in these types of situations so I am looking to see what everyone does. I am sure it happens to everyone sometime.
     
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  3. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    Common sense is the key. The idea here is to not interfere with emergency vehicles. If you are in a situation where you will interfere with them by continuing to do what you are doing, then clearly you need to get out of their way.

    Otherwise, there should be no problem.

    Now there is a questionable situation where you are driving on the highway at the posted speed limit, and come upon an emergency vehicle that is driving SLOWER than you are. This will usually be an old fire engine that just can't get up to speed.

    In this case, if you maintain your speed and pass the emergency vehicle, you may well get a ticket for failure to yield.

    Also keep in mind that LE vehicles will sometimes be out there slowing traffic down for a couple of miles or so prior to some type of problem in the road. Passing them would be rather foolish.
     
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  4. Yost69

    Yost69 Light Load Member

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    That is one I never thought about. If they had the lights flashing there is no way I would pass them. They are just to unpredictable. With all the lights flashing it is sometimes hard to see the turnsignals.

    I don't pass cops. Lights or no lights I just don't do it. I figure if I am going fast enough to pass them then I must be going faster than he wants me to go. :biggrin_25523: Here where I live if the cop is doing the speed limit he is running radar looking to give a ticket.

    I followed a wide load up 70 one time that had a pilot car on the rear and a maryland state trooper with the lights on. They slowed traffic on the bridges, I assume to give the truck enough room to get across them. Well everytime they slowed down someone would get right up on the rear of the pilot car to try and get around them. Some young girl was beside me texting on her phone and almost rear ended the cop, Im talking there couldnt have been more than 2 feet between them by the time I layed on the horn and she slammed on the brakes. Wish she would have got a ticket but it never happened.
     
  5. Bossfrog

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    I retired 10/2010 and have drove Engine and EMS trucks 22 years. Sounds like you are doing just fine to me. Most engines will only run around 70 - 75 going down hill with a strong wind pushing. Going up hill, forget it.
    If you come upon a slow moving truck with lights flashing, they may be looking for the accident scene off the roadway, slow down and give room.
    What would scare the hell out of me is trying to work a scene with cars and trucks flying by at 55 - 70 - 80 mph. Its like can you people (just people in general here) not see these BRIGHT FLASHING LIGHTS FROM 1/4 mile away, SLOW THE HELL DOWN. (this is at night) To me it is just showing no respect at all and i want to run them all down and chew some butt. But, then who would take care of the patient. lol
    Keep it in the road, sounds like you do have the respect and are trying to do right.
     
  6. I am medicineman

    I am medicineman Medium Load Member

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    1. Get out of the way...... ALWAYS.
    Slow down, speed up, move over.... whatever it takes.
    "Life & Death" trumps everyone else's "needs".

    2. You should already be moved over when approaching an onramp with ANY vehicles coming on.
    Is this longtime COURTESY not common knowlege anymore?
    (Geeze, what ARE they teaching the new breed in those fancy driving schools???)
     
  7. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    If you see an emergency vehicle coming down the ramp, give it the lane. You don't have to do anything else unless it is overtaking you. In that case, put on your signal and move as far to the right as you can. You are not only warning other drivers of your intentions, but giving that emergency vehicle the right-of-way it is requesting with those lights and siren. This applies to limited access highways.

    On two-lanes, if one is coming opposite you, put your signal on, slow down and move right. Usually, there is no need to stop. If overtaking you from the rear, same thing, only you may need t stop in order for the vehicle to pass you. Be sure the driver can see around you. If it is not safe for you to do this, at leat put your 4-ways on so the emergency driver knows you see them but don't slow down yet because you don't want to be the cork in the bottle. When you have room and it's safe to do so, yield the lane to them.

    Regarding passing police officers. If I am doing no more than 3 over, I pass them. 6 or 7 over, I'll probably slow down a little and see whether I'm still moving up on them. I do not fear passing cops. They already know what I'm up to anyway and if I've caught their interest, they'll chat with me regardless of whether I pass them or not. I get irritated when a cop gets on the highway and everybody is afraid to pass him or her and cause an "idiot pack" as a result. Just keep on minding yer own and move on. Unless you're doing something stoopid, they won't even look at you. (This is from experience from the inside of a cruiser.)
     
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  8. ‘Olhand

    ‘Olhand Cantankerous Crusty

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    All good answers--but remember if you see an emergency vehicle coming up the ramp in your directions--or one pulling out behind you on any road heading in the same direction you are--there is a good chance there is something very wrong up the road in fron of you--real good idea to slow down and start paying real close attention--you just might come up over a rise or around a curve and have a hell of a mess in front of you! Just my $.02
     
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  9. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    if you see an emergency vehicle with it's light on entering a highway, my simple rule is this. If I can safely slow do to let it merge ahead of me (four wheelers are no nicer to emergency vehicles than they are to us) I will, even if I have to hold up the traffic behind me.

    If, I pass the end of the ramp he is coming down, and I'm already in the right lane, I'll stay in the right lane, if I'm in the left lane, I'll get in the right lane. He's gonna want the left lane if he's responding to a call.

    Here's a scary thought for you, by law, in most states, a US Mail carrier has more of a right of way then an emergency vehicle (police, fire, ems) even if they have their lights/sirens on. Stems from laws in the 1800's about impeding the mail.
     
  10. BROKENSPROKET

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    Never wait to see if an emergency vehicle is actually going to overtake you. IF there is one behind you, REGARDLESS of how fast they are going, yield the road in the safest manner possible. Give them the road.
     
  11. Bossfrog

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    I guess the best thing to say to everyone is, give some room and watch what we do. If we head to the left lane we may be going a few miles or the accident/problem was reported to be inside lanes. If we stay middle to the right, we may take the next exit or the accident/problem was reported to be in the outside lane. When you see us just slow down, the traffic could be piled up over the next rise in the road or around the curve.
    Happy Trucking to all an keep it on the road.
     
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