pulling hills/mountains

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  1. harmin5288

    harmin5288 Bobtail Member

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    Hi guys...would a 3.25 rear end with a 10spd and a c15 acert be a bad combo for pulling hills. I run the west and spend time in the mountains. From what i can come up with is that combo rear motor and transmission is setup for flat lands at 75mph...also from my understanding a 3.55 with 10spd would be way better for pulling hills but it seems that 3.25 is not much off from 3.55 but i guess that .25 turn makes the difference.

    people are making it sound like the 3.25 will not go up a hill...i dont need to race.up a hill but i dont want to be tje last guy up either...a balanced setup...

    Should i go a differnt setup..i run reefer out of seattle with around 43-44k in the cooler

    Also is there a direct.10 and an overdrive 10?...
     
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  3. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    Anything can be made to work,I think it would depend on just how much time you spend climbing hills. I would suspect if pulling is a major problem, I would suggest a lower geared rear. Possibly a 3.70, or even lower if you stay in the mountains. Tire size also contribute to pulling ability, but engine HP is the greatest concern.

    There is [ was ? ] a direct 10 speed, but I think now most are OD.
     
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  4. rbrtwbstr

    rbrtwbstr Road Train Member

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    i personally would stay away from this one. 3.25 gears are way too high for the hills, especially with a 10 speed. would swapping the rears be an option in the near future? And how fast do you wanna run when not in the hills?
     
  5. harmin5288

    harmin5288 Bobtail Member

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    If I were to swap to 3.55 do I just change gears in the rear end or is it a big project? How much would that be? I plan on running less than 65...55-62
     
  6. harmin5288

    harmin5288 Bobtail Member

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    The reason for asking it's a 2009 t660 c15 10spd with 3.25 405k miles all service done by kw with all records for $55k out the door with xda all around fridge apu...I guess it's only a good deal if it's something that will work for me
     
  7. Busy dad

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    i am not a fan of 10spd for the coast..We run 13spd only..I think the 3:55 would be far easier on clutch wear and driver too..
     
  8. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    10 spd direct or OD?

    Just seems like an odd combo for either tranny to be at 3.25.
     
  9. dlrjr1970

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    It really comes down to physics. The lower geared rear end, "3.70", is always going to handle the hills better than the higher geared rear end, "3.25". A 3.55 rear with an overdrive 13 or 18 is the best middle of the road setup in my opinion, especially for a cat engine. I guess the question you need to ask yourself is what percentage of you driving is going to be done in the mountains. Over 50% and I would go with the lower gear ratio. Just remember no matter the ratio, if you go with the c15 cat, that engine wants to run at the lower rpm range. The lower you keep your rpms the better it will perform.
     
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  10. Blind Driver

    Blind Driver Road Train Member

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    I has 3.23s with a 550 Cat and a 9 speed transmission. It was a real pain in the butt in the mountains. I took my time and keep dreaming of a 13 speed for Christmas.

    :biggrin_25525:
     
  11. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    your thinking is way off on this. No matter what your transmission, rear end, or engine is when you climb hills you downshift until you find that happy gear that gets you to the top running 1400-1500 rpm. If you have 3.25 rear ends it may be 6th, whereas with 3.70 rear ends it may be 7th. If you have a 13 speed it may be 9th, but with a 10 speed it may be 7th. You hear what I'm saying ? You can achieve basically the same ratio of rpm's of the engine vs. rpm's of the wheels with any of these combinations.

    And if you are really pulling serious hills with serious loads, your limit is not going to be engine power but cooling capacity. Sometimes you cannot safely use all of the engine. Nowadays they are mostly idiot-proofed but if you have any kind of performance mod's or are hauling extra heavy loads you are often better off to drop a gear or two below what your engine will do and just hold her happy at 1400-1500 and crawl to the top.
     
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