So I will preface this by saying that I am a self-admitted moron when it comes to mechanical stuff, and I apologize if this is already public knowledge (although I did do a brief search of this forum and on Google and did not find anything that explained how and what I need explained).
Can someone explain to me the major differences between a 'wet-kit' and a blower? I am familiar with blowers, having used them fairly extensively. But I'm not familiar with wet-kits. At all.
Which leads me to my questions:
1. Does a truck with a wet-kit need the wet-kit uninstalled to install a blower?
2. What would be the benefit to buying a truck with a wet-kit, when what I need is a blower?
The reason I need to know this is because I'm looking for a truck with a blower. They seem to be virtually non-existent, or they are out of the price range I'm looking at. What I'm thinking is that if I can find a truck with a wet-kit (which seem to be more readily available), I can replace the wet-kit with a blower, or install a blower over the wet-kit. Thoughts?
I appreciate y'all's patience with me.
Leadfoot
PTO + Wet Kit + Blower = Confused
Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by leadfoot80, Mar 16, 2013.
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The transmission in your truck has auxiliary power options, if you aren't using them they are simply covered by a plate. to these auxiliary power sources you can attach a blower, a wet kit, a pto, or other things. I have driven trucks which had blowers and wet kits, so it is possible. not sure if all transmissions have options for several accessories, you would want to check. If you can't find a truck with a blower you like, find any truck you like, get the VIN # and transmission specs and price installation of a blower at a few truck shops.
Oh, and to explain your other question a wet kit is simply a hydraulic pump which can be used to power anything with a hydraulic motor including a blower. So you may well be able to purchase a truck with a wet kit and use it to power a blower mounted on your truck or trailer rather than having a blower running directly off the transmission.leadfoot80 Thanks this. -
A wet kits pto gearing will not be the right ratio to run a blower without having to run your truck wide open as it is usually a one to one ratio. The blower requires a higher ratio somewhere in the five or six to one so you can run your blower fast enough at just above an idle to keep it cool. Most of the time you will not find a used truck with a blower still on it as they are very expensive. The average price nowadays for a blower and all the hardware to go with it and installation will run 6 to 10 grand depending on where you live.
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Powering a blower using the wet kit is possible BUT you will need a oilradiator to cool the hydraulic oil.
You can buy those.
They are quite easy to install.
But you will need a wet kit which is powerfull enough for the blower.
So basicly you need to know what kind off blower you will install before you can decide if the wet kit is up to the job.
There are also PTO's which can do both.
Double exit ones.
Start by deciding which blower you want.........then work from there to decide the rest off the installation.
Allways remember,the weakest part in the link decides all.tank4life and leadfoot80 Thank this. -
Any suggestions on what kind of blower then? Are there different sizes/types of the same blower?
We are blowing off barite.. similar consistency to cement -- very heavy and powdery.
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I personally would look at a Gardner Denver Cycloflow T5CDL9 myself have had very good luck with them on our equipment unloading cement, slag, and fly-ash for distances of at least 200 feet. Did Have one truck with a model 12 which is a little bigger but didn't see the need in the added weight as there was no real difference in performance. Good luck.
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Wet line kits are more popular as they are used to drive the hydraulics on dumps.
Another cost to look out for is to change the PTO. When I bought my trucks they had a PTO installed for a wet line kit and it cost me around $1000 to have them switched. From what I have heard a blower has about a 7-10 year life. So when a company sells the truck used they usually remove to scrap them as they aren't a common item for truckers just us in the pneumatics business and aren't seen as a selling feature.
I would argue it is something you don't want to cheap out on though. If your blower doesn't work you wont be doing much off loading and therefore not making any money. Try calling a few service centres that specialize in the drive train as they may have a few used ones for sale or can keep an eye out for you.leadfoot80 Thanks this. -
Be very careful if you are going to leave the wet kit on the truck and it is the bottom mount PTO, that should be the 8 bolt PTO which is what is preferred for the blower operation the side mount is only a 6 bolt and you are asking for PTO issues if you use that side mount PTO to operate the blower. Also I am not sure if you can get a hydraulic motor that will have the initial torque to turn the blower and power the blower on a hard push. Many different things to consider before installing a blower.
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Stick w/ a PTO drive for a blower, I also recommend Gardner Denver.
They used to be the loudest but a redesign made them one of the quietest.
Vacuum pnumatic screams alot more than blowing off.
Any cement like products that can take heat can also use an exhaust stack turbo but they require operating up against the govenor. -
i prefer wet kits over drive shaft driven units, the biggest reason being is if something gets frozen or otherwise locked up nothing breaks. they are also more versatile. for water i like the wet kits with the pump mounted on the trailer for the reason that if your doing something other than hauling water you arnt dragging the vac pump around with you also a cleaner setup imo. you could do a truck mounted pump on a hydro setup but that's not common.
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