Problem with electric brake trailer

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by giannid, Sep 5, 2016.

  1. kwswan

    kwswan Road Train Member

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    Yes,no problem. Google redneck trailer parts & call them. They can tell you exactly what you need to do it.
     
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  3. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Personally I think the other way. I have chased way more problems with electric over hydraulic. I have seen guys speed thousands on changing over only to find worse brakes and more brake problems then they had before.

    And the big, big, problem with hydraulic is the trailers often sit, and no one changes the brake fluid ever. Brake fluid by nature absorbs water and corrodes all the hydraulic components out. Most of the Japanese auto manufactures, and all the motorcycle manufactures recomend changing out brake fluid every two years to prevent problems with this. Do you think people are going to do that with any trailer? Fat chance. Often sitting for months or years at a time hydraulic trailer brakes are always a problem.

    Electric brakes are simple. Adjust them up; check them for voltage. Thats it, until the shoes wear out. You don't even need a Ohm meter. A test light will find the problems all the time. Electro magnets do go out from time to time, but usually only the cheap ### chinese ones on the copy axles. I don't know if I ever changed out a good american made one, but even the chinese failures are rare. Sometimes simpler is better.
     
  4. giannid

    giannid Light Load Member

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    Ok Toomanybikes, you've complicated things for me any more. Today I made some phone calls about converting this trailer to electric over hydraulic and it's not cheap. Each hydraulic drum is going to be about $200 , the actuator is 550, and the hoses are going to be another 150 or so. I figure the conversion parts are going to be over $1500 to do this for a trailer to have reliable brakes. Now I don't know a lot about electric brakes but I'm trying to listen to those who know. The problem is I have a trailer that's not very old and doesn't have 10 k miles with only one brake out of 4 working. How do you explain that as being reliable? The trailer was new when I purchased it and came with Lippert axles and components. Are you thinking the components used were just defective. I purposely made sure that trailer went out every 2 weeks or so to keep everything free. It such a pain in the ### to get to the brakes on these things with the oil bath bearings. I'll probably have to replace the oil seals when I pull the drubs as they'll probably start leaking if I don't. I just want the brakes to work. I'll throw the money at the electric over hydraulic if they have the longevity. I'm not sold on the electric brakes so please explain what the problem is with mine failing so early. And it's not an electrical issue
     
  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Honestly we have a giant fleet of trailered rental equipment and it gets abused often. We rarely see issues with the brakes themselves. 95% of the time its in the wiring (in our case anyways).
     
  6. Toomanybikes

    Toomanybikes Road Train Member

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    Their are lots of low quality chinese components and parts in circulation now. Who knows where Lippert bought their components like magnets? Overall for years that same basic design for magnets and electric drum brakes have been used. Magnets failing were rare, but now days you see more of them. But by far most of the electric brake problems are wiring.

    I just about guarantee just about all the components to do the hydro-electric swap are of chinese origin and are less reliable then the chinese magnets. I have not pulled a hydro-electric brake system that impressed me was worth the price but I have seen a few that were not worth working on. It is a expensive swap with little to no benefit and a very real downside, even if you ignore price.

    Magnets are cheap, rarely fail, and a little time spent on doing the wiring right pails in comparison to the work involved in the hydro-electric swap and the maintenance that follows the swap.
     
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