Portable Heater for 2500w Inverter?

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  1. Southeast Trucker Mike

    Southeast Trucker Mike Light Load Member

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    Hi Everybody…

    I have an after-market inverter properly installed (correct gauge wire, direct to batteries, with fuse in line) which has worked great for the microwave oven, refrigerator and small fans. The Company truck I drive does not have an APU or bunk heater so, rather than idling for heat, I’m considering a small (500w-1000w) for the sleeper berth area. It would ONLY be used while I’m sleeping or breaking. I’ve read the discussions regarding “legality” of their use and, provided I am using it safely, don’t believe any leo would issue a citation to me for keeping warm while present and the truck isn’t running.

    My question is, assuming the 3 batteries in the truck are ok (no dead cells, doesn’t sit for days), would I get a full night’s usage without killing the batteries? The heater I’m looking at is about 900w and is thermostat controlled so it only operates as needed. I run Southeast mostly, so temps likely never below 20f. Any models you would recommend?
     
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  3. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    Harbor freight generator, or just idle the truck

    heater will kill batteries In no time
     
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  4. Magoo1968

    Magoo1968 Road Train Member

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    Inverter will shut off in less than fifteen minutes is my guess..only possible way it might work is running jumper cables to a reefer running on continuous.. personally I’d switch companies.. they only pull these stunts because Drivers ALLOW it rather than leave..
     
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  5. DRTDEVL

    DRTDEVL Road Train Member

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    900w on 4 batteries will hit the low voltage shutoff after about 2.4 hours of operation (1.8 hours if only 3 batteries in the box).

    You're gonna need more battery storage.
     
  6. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    My microwave is 700w and I could only get maybe 10 minutes use of it with my last company's "opti-idle" truck before it started itself. Your heater will trip the low volt cut off on the inverter in less than that. And I think 900w won't come close to keeping a bunk area warm unless it's one of the 1/2 size mini sleepers some companies use for regional trucks. They make a 12v mattress pad heater for those cold southern nights...or a decent sleeping bag.
     
  7. Southeast Trucker Mike

    Southeast Trucker Mike Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the great replies… seems unanimous that a portable heater using truck battery power is a “no-go”. I like the heated mattress pad idea… and a good sleeping bag.

    Idling the truck IS permitted by my employer, but I hate the idea of burning 8-10 gallons of diesel just for a little heat… for A/C in Summer I have no choice. I believe bunk heaters should be mandatory for sleeper-berthed tractors (if no APU). Seems like the additional cost ($5k+) would be recovered in resale value when the lease term is over. I read somewhere that the transportation industry burns about one billion gallons of diesel annually just by idling… yikes.
     
  8. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    Why are you concerned about idling in a company truck to stay warm?
    And why pay out your money to do it?
     
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  9. uncleal13

    uncleal13 Road Train Member

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    I used one of those heated mattress pads with thermostatic control for a winter. They work pretty good.
    Coldest I used it was -15C (05F)
    Rough inverter: math load in watts divided by 12 volts is approximate current draw on batteries (actually worse than that due to inefficiency of inverter).
    So 900 w / 12 v = 75.75 amps
    Group 31 truck battery is around 180 minutes reserve capacity which is how long it takes to drain down the battery with a 25 amp load.
    So three batteries can supply the required load for no more than three hours, but you’re batteries would be completely dead.
     
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  10. Ridgeline

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    We have been installing $150 Chinese diesel heaters in the trucks that don’t have a webesto or espar heaters.

    many people trash these things as dangerous or so cheap they break down or a bunch of other crap, all of it is bs.

    out of 50 plus installs, one failed.

    They are just the same as espar or Webesto.

    they draw 11 amps for start up and runs at 1.3 amps on low. Uses about a pint for a few hours of running and easily serviceable.

    you can get the external model, run two hoses into the truck and you have a warm cab and sleeper.
     
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  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Resistive heaters "elements glow red hot" consume massive amounts of energy. I would expect any heater that can run while you sleep and not drian your battieries is too small to provide the heat you expect while the heater than can provide the heat you want will kill your battieries. I would expect an electric blanket would provide better results. My only experience with a 12 volt heated blanket was somewhere between "is this thing working" and "wow, that is not much heat." Maybe a 120v blanket would be more effective. I would try that.

    You should probably consider a super-duper (non-walmart) sleeping bag rated for cold weather and then decide if you need to heat the truck while you are inside your north pole rated sleeping bag.
     
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