i own a 2005 kw w900. the company i am leased through is mostly flats and vans but we have some dry bulk tanks. im interested in installing one but the way the mufflers are on w9's they are directly in the way of where the drive shaft for the blower would have to run. i see plenty of w900's and 379s with blowers for pneumatic tanks my question is how did you install the blower to get around the mufflers did you remove the mufflers? add extra joints in the driveshaft to rout it up and over the mufflers (if you added joints did they wear out faster because of the extra flex)etc..... any help is greatly appreciated. thank you
pneumatic blower on 05 w900
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I run a fleet of trucks that pulls strickly dry bulk tankers about 30 in all. We run drum d809 or tuthill t850 I run them on the drivers side of the truck off of the 8 bolt pto I position mine behind the fuel tanks and because of the length i have to run a carrier so long as you keep the drive shaft angles to a minimum and greased weekly or better off daily the joints last pretty good. As far as the exhaust i dont have any w900 so i cant talk from exsperiance there but i do have some 379's with dual exh and i ran the drive shaft just above the y pipe and it worked well. Under no condition would i ever run a blower off of the six bolt pto. Hope this helps
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I have a "hydrapack" to run my Roper product pump. (2004 W900)
Hydraulic pump married to bottom mount PTO. Hoses to hydraulic motor which is bolted to product pump. Hoses are real easy to route. Initial purchase is high, I was able to buy one off a wrecked truck. Found two actually; One for $1500, other was $1000. Both were driving Roper pumps, and complete, except for control valve. Reservoir contains about five gallons oil, and newer units are really compact. -
Droy dont mean to sound stupid but what is a roper pump? Is it for fluid transfer?
Blowers take quite a bit of power to run so using hydraulics to run it will create alot of heat and require a cooler and a larger supply of oil. I by no means know everthing about blowers or pto's if you really want some anwsers call RA Ross and associates in ohio they are good with blowers and very helpfull. -
droy i believe what you are talking about is a compressor for unloading liquid tanks but please correct me if im wrong. i have looked into getting a hydraulic blower but they are more expensive for the unit and they use high dollar parts. i am trying to avoid having to run a very long carrier or running one with a lot of joints in it. power what materials do your trucks haul and how many loads a week does one truck unload? thanks
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Yes, Roper pump is common term for gear type of product pump used to move oil, among other liquids. 3" gear pump requires 12-15 pto hp; a 4" needs 15-18; IIRC
The 3" (suction/discharge) are most common in my area. These will heat up the hydraulic oil very quickly also, if the cooling system isn't up to par. Basically the cooling system consists of a fan, either electric, or hyd. driven, and the oil cooler, very simple really.
I have a blower, well really it is a compressor, resembles a Harley V-Twin, but probably won't mount it on my truck. (came with a "package deal"). The hyd. motor is actually a little smaller than the one for my Roper. I have seen some of the bulk blowers, but have no knowledge about them.
Maybe this setup wouldn't work for you, might be better off talking to someone "in the know".
Good Luck!
When I was working for a transportation company as a crude oil driver, we were averaging 5-6 loads a day, 10-12 times a day pumping on/off using the Hydrapak/Roper setup earlier described, we did have stationary pumps at some places, but the truck pumps were used the most, by far. Depending on the gravity of the oil, our load could be as little as 160 bbls., or as much as 210 bbls. We pulled 220 bbl tridum trailers (42 gal./bbl). Depending on the oil, and which station we loaded/unloaded, pumping times were from 15 min-45 min normallyLast edited: Jun 14, 2010
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Thanks for the clarification droy what I need is a blower for unloading dry bulk tanks. Do you know if the set up you are speaking of can be used for/converted to unloading dry bulk tanks? Like I said the problem with the w9's is they have 2 mufflers and there aren't many choices for running the carrier to the pto you can either run extra joints and have to grease almost daily and still risk throwing out joints or remove the drivers side mufflers. I'm not sure if what powerfreak said he did with his 379s (running an extra long carrier under the y pipes) would work on a w9. Also powerfreak while on the topic do you have any problems with heat from the exhaust causing extra wear on the carrier/joints? Thanks guys
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When I worked for WMI we used a hydraulic pump to run the Garner Denver compressor / Vacuum Compressor. Your right it required a substantial sized oil reservoir.
I would mount the PTO take off, off the bottom mount on the trans, and reroute exhaust if necessary. -
So long as the carrier is not touching the exh i dont see any problems. It will be alot cheaper to reroute your exh and run a driveline than to go the route of the hyd system. The exh will take a little bit but if you take your time and think it out it wont be bad. BTW a blower install does not happen in a day when your dealing with obstacles like you have so make sure to plan for atleast 2 or 3 days down.
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I have 2 w900's and have PTO, Shaft, and Blowers on both of them. To create space for the equipment, we removed both of the mufflers and strait piped them from the engine to the stacks. Doing that will only increase the exhaust flow improving your gas mileage and horsepower. The noise difference was not noticeable. The sound of the C-15 Cat is greater than the sound of the mufflers anyways. Sometimes you will have to relocate the airtanks depending on where they are and where you want to mount your equipment.
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