Here is a question I have not seen and answer to. Say you work for a company that mostly does local short hauls but occasionally takes loads that are not local and you have to log your hours and miles in a log book. Also this company has no trucks with ELD's installed because they claim they are exempt,whether this is true or not is questionable.
Can a driver own and use there own ELD and just plug it in so as to be able to use digital logging and avoid the hassle of filling out paper logs even if technically they are only part time drivers and exempt from the ELD mandate.
The quick and dirty question really is can you own your own ELD and use it for logging instead of paper logs or does the ELD need to be registered to the transport company.
Personal ELD for Logging, No Company ELD's
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by davefred99, Aug 23, 2020.
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You can use your own, depending on company policy.
If you are truly local and exempt from logging you need to meet criteria.
1. No more than 12 hour shift. Work longer than 12 hours, you must log.
2. Don't exceed the 100 air mile radius.
3. Company must keep records of time.
If you do qualify, you can still go outside those requirements 8 days in any rolling 30 days and just paper log without needing an ELD.
That said, if you are running a full ELD that connects to the ECM and follows all regs for ELD's it will have to be able to connect to the truck. It will also be very grumpy if it's not always used because it will detect all non-ELD movement and ask about it. If you are using a simple Electronic Logger (smartphone app) you will need to be able to print your logs on demand on the side of the roadkemosabi49 Thanks this. -
After reading up a little it from what I can tell that ELD's can not be moved from one truck to another. They are supposed to stay connected to what ever truck they are paired to all the time. So it seems that once you install it in one truck it has to stay in the same truck or it will not work properly.
If someone better informed than me can explain how they actually work in real life please fill me in. I am just getting back into trucking and these devices did not exist back when I previously had a CDL. I have never use one and am just trying to get a handle on how they work. I don't expect to need one but might like the using one better then hand logs which I also have little experience with since I have almost always been only a local haul driver and never learned how to properly fill out a paper log book. -
Google ELD App (or use app store)
I just did a search. Two top names came up.
Keep Truckin
Big Road
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If it’s less then 8 days you can use paper or the old style recorder type log on a smart device
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Before the ELD mandate, I used KeepTruckin as my personal electronic logbook. It’s as valid as paper logs, if that’s what you’re looking for.
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The print requirement has been changed. Logging apps like KeepTruckin can transmit logs by several methods. Open the app to inspection mode, choose transmit logs and enter the appropriate information, press send.
To be a qualified ELD, it needs to be electronically connected to the ECM of the vehicle. If not, it will operate in manual mode, just like a paper log. -
Question 28: May a driver use a computer, tablet, or smartphone (that is not an Automatic On-Board Recording Device) to create, electronically sign, and store the record of duty status (RODS)?
Guidance:
Yes. A driver may make manual duty-status entries to a computer, tablet, or smartphone program that is used to generate the graph grid and entries for the record of duty status (RODS) or log book, provided the electronically-generated display (if any) and output includes the minimum information required by §395.8 and is formatted in accordance with that section. The driver must sign the RODS (manually or electronically) at the end of each 24-hour period to certify that all required entries are true and correct.
- If electronic signatures are not used:
- The driver must print and manually sign the RODS daily.
- The driver must have in his or her possession the printed and signed RODS for the prior seven consecutive days (if required on those days).
- The driver should be given an opportunity to print and manually sign the current day’s RODS at the time of the inspection.
- If RODS have been electronically signed:
- At the time of an inspection of records by an enforcement official, the driver may display the current and prior seven days RODS to the official on the device’s screen.
- If the enforcement official requests printed copies of the RODS, the driver must be given an opportunity to print the current and prior seven days RODS (if required on those days) at the time of inspection.
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