Personal Conveyance law and washing the truck on weekends.

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  1. Davehrose1

    Davehrose1 Bobtail Member

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    Hi
    Is it legal for an owner operator to come in on his day off and take the truck to be washed using personal conveyance? I’m not asking for ways around it or how to do it, I’m asking if it’s actually legal to do it. Thank you. I see a company driver can’t log washing his truck as PC but as an owner operator who isn’t under any obligation from the company he’s leased in to I don’t see why not.
    My safety dept wants me to log it in which will obviously screw up my hours
     
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  3. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    There is no law, there is no regulation, it is open to be interpreted by the state enforcement and if you are leased to a carrier you follow their rules.
     
  4. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    I'd bet most dot officers would consider that to be an on duty affair
     
  5. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    Law says you are allowed to log off duty if going from your house/yard to a shop for work, kind of a grey area For a wash, probably won’t be a problem…until it is
     
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  6. silverspur

    silverspur Road Train Member

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    The guidance says a driver can't use PC when transporting a CMV to a facility to have vehicle maintenance performed.
     
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  7. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    There is no law. There is no regulation.

    All it is, is a guidance for a question that was asked because people wanted to have the FMCSA justify their crying about it.
     
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  8. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Regulations say nothing per PC
    The regulation states maintenance/repairs are on duty
    395.2 (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;
     
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  9. Anywhichwaybutloose

    Anywhichwaybutloose Light Load Member

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  10. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Honestly, i always view PC like this. Am i useing it like i would a car. I.E going to the laundromat. Going shopping, going to a doctor ect ect ect? And if the answer is yes, is it less then 2 hours or so? If the answer is yes to both its PC if the answer is no to either then its on duty.

    Washing your truck is defo maintaince or is going to be looked at as such by most people dot officer or not. Could you do it and get away with it? Absolutely.....right up till you dont.
     
  11. Iamoverit

    Iamoverit Road Train Member

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    If it's work related it's not personal. Pretty simple.
     
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