Oversize question....Rear overhang permissable on this load? (PA, NY)

http://www.search.cio.ny.gov/search?q=overhang&btnG=&client=dot_frontend&output=xml_no_dtd&proxystylesheet=dot_frontend&proxycustom=&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&entqr=0&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&ud=1&site=dot_collectionPERM 87 (11/03 version) second from the bottom
[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]STATE OF NEW YORK[/FONT]
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DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]CENTRAL PERMIT OFFICE

50 Wolf Road, 1st Floor, Albany, New York 12232

[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]GUIDELINES FOR SPECIAL HAULING PERMIT REQUIREMENTS

[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][/FONT](Special Requirements indicated on permit issued may be different than guidelines below based on engineering judgement, weights, and specific highway geometry)

[FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold]OVERHANG REQUIREMENTS

[/FONT][FONT=TimesNewRoman,Bold][/FONT]4'-0" OR GREATER - 18" x 18" RED OR ORANGE FLOURESCENT FLAGS ON STAFF ON END OF LOAD

- TWO FLAGS REQUIRED ON STAFFS AT THE EXTREMITIES OF THE OVERHANG IF WIDTH OF

OVERHANG IS MORE THAN 2 FEET

GREATER THAN 10'-0" - CERTIFIED ESCORT VEHICLE TO FOLLOW WHEN REAR OVERHANG IS GREATER THAN

 

You have a 53' trailer....already the longest trailer allowed under the law...and even that is strictly limited to specific routes. An 18" overhang on the rear would make the trailer & load 54.5' in length.

https://www.dot.ny.gov/nypermits/repository/perm71b.pdf

If you can remove part of the load to prevent adding that extra length, you can't get a permit for the extra length...just like you wouldn't be able to get an overwidth permit to place a pair of 5' wide objects side by side on the trailer.

 

That apparently is very controversial. I run around LOTS with 2' hanging out the front of my 53' wagon and am yet to be bothered. I know it is somewhat argumentative as to whether it's legal or not>each jurisdiction deals with it differently.

Pennsylvania Oversize Load / Pilot Car Requirements[HR][/HR]Oversize and Overweight Loads and Vehicles
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[TD="width: 50%"]Oversize Load Permit Is Required:
Width: Over 8' 0" (8' 6" on numbered routes, unless posted)
Height: Over 13' 6"
Length: Semi-trailer over 53' 0"
Weight: Over 80,000 lbs. GVW (20,000 lbs. single axle or 34,000 lbs. tandem axle)
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Because it is now a divisible load. I have NY overweight and over width permits. It goes like this; you have an item that is over width and you want to add a separate item that is over length. They see that a two special hauls. Remember NY is ALL about the money. This way they can get two permits out of you instead of one. I know this is an old thread, just wanted to add to the knowledge base here.

 

your question makes no sense at all.if you are overwidth,then you are by definition not legal.length is irrelevant.