oversize partial ?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by dannythetrucker, May 31, 2013.

  1. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    What they mean by non-dimensional load is you can't put freight side by side or end to end that would it make it an oversize.(hay being the only exemption that I know of) You can have as many partials on a trailer as you want so long as they don't make anything oversize. Danny's load is perfectly legal. You can also have multiple oversize peices on a trailer as well, you just need to permit accordingly.
     
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  3. saddleup

    saddleup Light Load Member

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    Just rember in Kentucky no permitt will be issued for rolled over size hay, only way to haul it here is if the Gov. signes a declaration od disater to haul it. been calling all week long trying to haul hay to my farm for myself, all they will tell me is for now just haul a singlke row on my stepdeck, talk about being mad.
     
  4. passingthru69

    passingthru69 Road Train Member

    Good deal, those rolled bales should not be allowed to be loaded side by side any way.
    They are a hazard
     
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  5. Oscar the KW

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    A nice tight fresh bale is fine, its when they load the ones that have been sitting in the field and rotting that are the problem.
     
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  6. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    Odd, I got my permit from PA today for another little oversized piece and it says "non-divisible". No problem for me I didn't come up with anything to haul along with it anyways, but kind of surprised. I'm not sure, it may be possible to order permit from PA with another load type that allows for divisible. Other permits make no mention, just the overall dimensions.
     
  7. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    Legal if it was overwidth, but not over length. I've ran OD as a partial, I just make sure it's picked up last and the first thing to come off as states will not allow u to stop and go off route for a delivery most times.
     
  8. SHC

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    Non-divisible means that the OD piece does not come apart. Such as a draper head on a trailer. Has nothing to do with adding other legal size pieces to the load.
     
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  9. catalinaflyer

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    That's what I was trying to say before, you can load a 10' wide piece, a 12' wide piece, a 14' wide piece all on the same trailer with a permit for only the 14' wide as long as no other dimensions are over, length, overhang, weight or height unless the 14' wide piece is over height then everything else can be over height as well as long as they are not as high as the largest permitted piece. I haul oversize 75% of the time and I load other stuff with it all the time. Once your largest piece is off then you will have to get new permits for the next largest piece. It's legal in every state, all of Canada and Alaska. Now, the partials need to be picked up and dropped within the route, you can't zigzag all over the country. We will load several partials of varying size at the same shipper going to the same receiver many times and there's no problem as long as the largest piece is permitted.

    Non divisible means the piece that the permit covers cannot within reason be taken apart and made any smaller. Each state varies a little on what constitutes within reason but a good general rule is 8 hours of labor. If it will take more than 8 labor hours to reduce the piece then that is considered to be not within reason.
     
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  10. dannythetrucker

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    UPDATE on this, trouble in paradise. ATS and the customer have decided I should be paid $1150 on the fan instead of $1950 since I hauled something else. My response was that

    A. I got all my permits, showed up on time, secured and tarped the load, and delivered on time. perfect. What service were they going to get from an empty truck that they did not get from me ?

    B. You don't set my rates, I set my rates. If there is a problem it needs to be addressed beforehand, not afterwards. Any discounts need to be authorized by me.

    They are saying I voided the contract because the ratesheet says "exclusive use of the truck". I suppose they are right there, but I still maintain that the time to renegotiate would have been beforehand or else the shipper should have refused to load my truck. I didn't decide to knock off $800, they did. They could have just as easily told the customer too late cheapskate, you got what you paid for. They decided to kiss the customer's behind for their own benefit, not mine, and with my money to boot !! Very disappointed with ATS, looks like this is going to be a small claims matter and a thorn in my side for the next little while.
     
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