Oversize in Arizona WARNING!

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  1. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    If anyone is planning on hauling anything over 12' wide in Arizona this summer you may want to check AZ511 before accepting any loads through AZ. I deal with permitting oversize in AZ everyday and can honestly say (not kidding) I believe they are trying to stop all oversize loads from traveling through the state, OR somehow colluding to make law enforcement escorts necessary. Look at the AZ511 restrictions (be sure to click the "see restrictions for"... two weeks out). I-10 is 9 wide, U.S. 70 is 12 wide and only gets you to Globe 15'5" high max., U.S. 60 is 11 wide, 260 is 12 wide, I-40 is 12 wide, 89 is 14 wide, 264 from New Mexico is 12 wide, 191 south from I-40 is completely closed, I-15 is 10 wide. If you are over 12'0 and want to get from El Paso Texas to San Diego California, you will be going up to Albuquerque, to Colorado, Utah, drop down to Vegas...
    As most of you who deal with this know, it is illegal to completely close commerce on interstate highways so ADOT has given us an option... Pay for Highway Patrol escorts to zigzag the state on two lane roads at a cost of thousands of dollars. If you believe there is some sort of collusion between state agencies, you have to file a complaint with DPS (the same guys who get paid to escort), or contact USDOT (good luck talking to a bureaucrat in Washington DC).
     
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  3. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    Good grief, I'm glad I almost never get down there.
     
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  4. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    Just adjust your rates accordingly
     
  5. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    yep, that's all you can do, but it sure is nice for the heads up.
     
  6. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    az has always been a pain in the backside on oversize. I used to bootleg oversize through az in the old days to a lot of the mines. try it today and az would be getting pretty rich off of me. got into an argument with a dot gal at the poe down by san simon years ago. pulled in with a permit in hand already. she took one look and said it wasn't anygood must buy another. compared it to the new one to the old one word for word identical. I pointed it out to her. never seen a women get so mad in all my life. learn lesson that day. learned to shut up and move on.
     
  7. Flightline

    Flightline Road Train Member

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    Really all about the money, not about trying to stop oversize thru the state. Other states will follow when they see the money gain with escorts.
     
  8. rockyroad74

    rockyroad74 Heavy Load Member

    ####### oversize loads are rarely worth the time and hassle. I can run 2 or 3 legal loads in the time that is spent on that OD load. Make better money with legal loads.
     
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  9. Superhauler

    Superhauler TEACHER OF MEN

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    obviously you haven't pulled the right oversize loads.
     
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  10. Guntoter

    Guntoter Road Train Member

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    Ok, tell me what legal loads you pull to gross 750 K per year per truck. How many miles do you run to net $250 K per year? Go back to your steering wheel holding there wheel jockey, the big kids are talking.
     
  11. rockyroad74

    rockyroad74 Heavy Load Member

    I'm not talking super loads or even heavy loads. Just comparing flat/step wide loads to legal loads.

    I've talked to a heavy hauler with a 8axle rig grossing around $500000/yr, but he also has $400000 in equipment.
    After higher costs in all other categories plus permit and escort costs; he's not netting much more than I do with a flatbed.

    It's all about the net, not the gross.
    But my hat is off to you super load operators. It is a different animal, indeed. Just not worth the investment in equipment for me.
     
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