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Overhang on a 48 foot trailer (Spread Axle)

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by XChess1971, Oct 25, 2019.

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  1. Oct 25, 2019 #1
    XChess1971

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    Hi everybody!

    A long time ago I was told by a DOT officer that for a 48 foot flatbed trailer it is legal to have a overhang of 2 feet in the front and 3 feet in the back. If I am not wrong he said no more than 53 foot long. If I did the 53' on the trailer. And I kept everything overhung in the back. That would be extra 5 feet. I do not know if that would put too much pressure in the back 'cause I carry spread axle on the trailer. I guess that helps. But the point is 5 foot overhang in the back is legal???? Or I had to do 2 feet in the front and 3 feet in the back???
    Also what about if the beam is 55 foot long? Would I have to have a overhang in the front of 2 feet and 5 feet in the back. Would I need permits for that kind of overhang????
    One last question is the permits that they give you is based on the length of the beam. If so a beam that is over 53 foot long is already considered oversize on a 48 foot trailer?
    I got a call from this broker asking me to do a 55' beam. I simply rejected that. I didn't want to take chances on that or headaches with permits. Besides it didn't look to me that she was paying something fair on it.
     
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  3. Oct 25, 2019 #2
    cke

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    Every state is different.
     
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  4. Oct 25, 2019 #3
    stayinback

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    Well,I dont do oversize but a "Broker" once told me your Good at 54 feet on a 48.....Without any permits

    Like to know if thats true or not

    "We do it all the time" Was their Motivational saying
     
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  5. Oct 25, 2019 #4
    D.Tibbitt

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    Every state is different when it comes to front and back overhang. There is no general answer one could give that question. U would have to check the permits as to what u are allowed... For what its worth last time i was down in arizona loading at cmc rebar, i talked to another driver, we had the same loads (60ft rebar)but he had to get permits because he had a 48ft trailer and i had a 53. I put mine 4ft off the front and 3 off the back and was legal for arizona and utah. He ran the same load to same place i was but had to hang banners and lights because of shorter trailer and to much hanging off back....best thing to do is check with each state u are going thru
     
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  7. Oct 25, 2019 #5
    blairandgretchen

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    Every state is different.
     
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  8. Oct 25, 2019 #6
    blairandgretchen

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    To which you reply - “Do what all the time? Take bad advice and get tickets?”
     
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  9. Oct 25, 2019 #7
    blairandgretchen

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    Ok. So, some states allow 57’ trailer and load.

    Some exempt items of a structural nature.

    Some allow the above, but daytime only.

    Spread allows 40k, but if it’s heavy, you need to be careful loading it.

    Origin and destination would make this easier to answer.
     
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  10. Oct 25, 2019 #8
    XChess1971

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    Thanks for all the comments. A broker or his agent is not the DOT. And in the long run they do not care about you. If they have to they will screw you. The comment "We do it all the time" can be kept for himself. Not only brokers, but shippers as well.
    I guess I am safer not touching those loads unless I am 100% sure. And we are in a situation of almost no work. We do not need to be screwed up even more!
     
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  11. Oct 25, 2019 #9
    starmac

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    If I was in your shoes, and planned to keep running flat, I would educate myself on at least the states laws where I generally run, if not all of them.
    I do not know of any state that does not allow 4 ft overhang off the back of a 48 without a permit, but don't be 4 ft 1 in. lol I would not have hesitated to take the load, just on dimensions.
    Iirc, some states will require a permit for any overhang off a 53 ft trailer,, but learning the laws is not hard and a guy needs to know them.
    PS, just because a dot tells you something is legal, or illegal, does not always make it true either.
     
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  12. Oct 26, 2019 #10
    FoolsErrand

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    Dont put anything past a broker. Some will contract a "legal" load to you, and when you arrive you find out they just tricked you to show up to a slightly oversize load, hoping youll just take the chance and run it for a few extra bucks. Theyre trying to get permit loads moved half price.
     
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