OTR & Hourly Pay

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by tnscavenger, Sep 7, 2015.

  1. tnscavenger

    tnscavenger Light Load Member

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    Lately, I have been hearing some talk of how great it would be if over-the-road truckers were paid by the hour. Of how much money one would make if all his time spent driving, fueling, and pre and post-trip inspecting was paid by the hour.

    In the first few years of my driving career, I did local work; flatbed, multi-stop, paid by the hour, home every night. Then, needing to earn more income, I went OTR, and have done so the last 2 years. So I have seen both sides of the coin.

    I have a different view of this idea of hourly pay. Triditional over-the-road truckers have always enjoyed the most freedom on the job than other types of trucking. As long as a driver picks up the load on time, transport it safely and legaly, and delivers it on time, the rest is the driver's discretion. An individual's ability to plan ahead, and use his time efficiently, among other skills, have been the key to making a decent living on the road.

    When your paid by the hour, your time is no longer yours, it's now your employer's. And companies want to get the most bang for their buck. That is why most companies with hourly employees have quotas, and ridgid time limits for breaks and meals. You are now a volenteer slave, free to quit, but on the clock, you are their puppet.

    How does this figure into OTR? Well, you may indeed see a bigger pay check, but it will be at the cost of your freedom. Your feeling sleepy, want to take a longer 30 minute break to eat & take a short nap? No more. You have been running hard the last few days, tomorrow, your next load has twelve hour windows to pick up and drop in. You would like to do 11 hours off to rest, eat a good meal, and get a shower and shave before going. To bad now, your carrier has set time limits on off-duty time. These are examples.

    Is CPM Perfect? No, it's too low for alot, if not most company drivers. But a driver can do alot to make his pay check look good. As stated above, it's about strategy, skills, and experience. As for me, I'll keep my freedom, and use my knowledge to enhance my income in this great game, called Trucking.

    (These are my personal observations and opinions. Henceforth, are neither right or wrong.)
     
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  3. ttyson

    ttyson Medium Load Member

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    You can still stop and a 30 minute nap,heck,if I'm tired and l'm on the hourly clock,l would still stop for 30,60,even 90 minutes if l was that tired.See because if you are tired and or fatigue to the point of nodding off behind the wheel,you are not allowed to continue to drive..
     
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  4. Accidental Trucker

    Accidental Trucker Road Train Member

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    The 14 hr clock has taken away an awful lot of that freedom, and ELDs are going to remove the rest of it.

    I'm actually experimenting with putting a driver on a fixed salary on a dedicated run. So far, finding the driver has been WAY easier than I expected. We'll know in about a year how it works out for both of us.
     
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  5. ttyson

    ttyson Medium Load Member

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    The 14 hour clock is just what I'm allowed to work,no where does it say l MUST drive 11 in that 14..l had a company tell me once," driver wash your truck and get oil changes on your 10..yea right..if l want to stop eat,shower,or take a nap,l'm doing it on my 14,and if l only have 8 hour available to drive in my 14 after those activites,and I come up a hour short from my reciever and l have to take another 10 plus the hour to get there,well thats just how it its,,blame the DOT HOS not me..
     
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  6. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    my company pays me $950 to drive from Green Bay to Los Angelos call it cpm salary hourly who cares
    as long as it makes it at the delivery time and dispatcher has me another $950 ride home
     
  7. 8thnote

    8thnote Road Train Member

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  8. 8thnote

    8thnote Road Train Member

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    ^ I don't know why it made my post look like that. ^
     
  9. GasHauler

    GasHauler Master FMCSA Interpreter

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    I'll take my local hourly gasoline hauling pay any time over any other driving pay. If you were paid for all your time away from home and in that truck you'd be rich. But you are not paid for all your time and that time when the truck is stopped you're giving the company your time and pay away.

    Back in 1998 before I retired I was hauling gasoline hourly pay 12 hours a day for 6 days a week and I came close to six figures in pay. I gave no time away because I do not work for free. I was home every day and watched my Son grow up.
     
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  10. NewbiusErectus

    NewbiusErectus Medium Load Member

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    Hourly works for me, paid by log book hours. Time-and-a-half after 8 hrs (and of course over 40).

    I can still stop when I want to, it's no different than when I ran miles,, except that other people's incompetence doesn't cost me money, i get paid for it.

    Since going to hourly, I'm like mr Rogers when I drive. If fedex wants to clog up the middle lane, it's peachy. I just move to the right lane and let everyone stack up behind him, and listen to them yell on the radio. Shipper or consignee having problems? No prob, I'm on duty sleeping.

    Can't wait for next time DOT checks my log book,, I log it more anally than the most anal DOT ociffer would log it.

    And it's pretty easy to spot a driver taking advantage of it.
     
  11. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Seems there's lot's of assuming going on here. Seems some are assuming an hourly rate would be a "respectable" rate. They can make the hourly rate whatever they want to as long as it is above the federal/state minimum wage.
    61 hr/wk @ $20 hr = $1,220
    61 hr/wk @ $15 hr = $915
    61 hr/wk @ $10 hr = $610

    see how that works? The point is, carriers are not going to put themselves into a position where there driver payroll increases x percentage overnight. In fact, I contend many would end up with less gross earnings on full hourly then on the original mileage pay model. The bean counters at corporate aren't idiots and they assume most drivers are.

    Be careful what you wish for.
     
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