Ordering a new 4 axle truck

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  1. TangoUniform257

    TangoUniform257 Bobtail Member

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    I am getting ready to order a new truck for a 55ton ASPEN with a 120" swing radius. I am between a Pete 389, Kenworth W900, and a T800. All 4 axle. I see some of you run these trucks and seem to have no problem getting the weight on the steer axle. I don't think I could ever get 20K up there but do you think I could get 16K on the front? The 389 is a 270"WB and with a 120" neck on the trailer what is your thoughts? If I get the T800 I could get closer, but the ride will suffer. I would lover to be able to haul 92K in payload. Not sure I can get there. What hell base do you guys run?
    Thanks!
     
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  3. Roberts450

    Roberts450 Road Train Member

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    Following as Im looking at doing the same. Only with a short hood 389 to get a bigger sleeper with a long spread for lift axle but yet to keep around a 290" wb to keep short enough for some of the lenght laws here in the west. All while keeping the lift out from underneath the sleeper.
     
  4. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    I run a 240" Western Star it has 60" spacings on the drives and a 63" spacing from the first drive to the cheater for some stupid reason. I pull a 55 to Talbert with a 108" swing clearance. I would think with 52" spacings and enough slide with a long wheel base you could get a decent amount on the steer. Is your trailer a 3 or 4 axle?
     
  5. TangoUniform257

    TangoUniform257 Bobtail Member

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    3 axle with the option for booster.
     
  6. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    You'll never get 92,000 with a tri axle trailer except in a few places. But to run interstate you'll need a quad trailer to get 92,000.
     
  7. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    LOL when I first read that I was thinking Bull ####! But then I realized you guys are talking payload.. LOL

    Even if you did get permits, here in Montana you would probably be in DW21 conditions and would require 2 pilot cars on all 2 lane roads. Even if you were legal dimensions, just because of the weight.
     
  8. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Yes payload, I think that's what he meant. My experience has been 20,000 an axle, some states give more and I'm not familiar at all with the western states with 8 tires per axle or things like the Montana DW21 types of things.
     
  9. TangoUniform257

    TangoUniform257 Bobtail Member

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    Yes, payload. Florida allows 22K per axle. But my question it about tractor wheelbase.
     
  10. cnsper

    cnsper Road Train Member

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    This is a 254" wheel base. It has room in front of the drop axle for a small sleeper of less than 60". The spacing from the drop axle to the last drive is 9.5'. That allows us to go to 43k on the drives with the tag down. Also that is a cozad with a 28' deck.
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  11. RGN

    RGN Road Train Member

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    My 1-4 is 294", 2-4 116" (9'-8")
    Washington I get:
    1-4 = 68,977
    2-4 = 55,044
    Full of fuel empty & slid forward I'm heavy on the front, so it's not too hard to load it up depending on the machine.
     
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