Ok, local driver log book questions.

You can stay on line 4 all day if you stay within the same town limits all day. You need to list all trailers on your DVIR not necessarily.

 

Direct from the horses mouth:

If you search around you can find special local log books that only show on duty and off duty as the options.

EDIT: Here is a link to one...
http://www.jjkeller.com/wcsstore/CVCatalogAssetStore/samples/forms/991-L.pdf


And where to get it....
http://www.jjkeller.com/webapp/wcs/...adius-Time-Record--Stock_10151_-1_10551_74058

Your new safety man doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

No, 395.1 says you are exempt from 395.8. A logbook is nothing but a time card for a local driver. You can work 12 hours and what you do in that 12 hours is redundant. Line 1 and 4 are fine. You don't have to show breaks because that is redundant too. Only necessary if payroll uses it to figure pay. But me I can't help myself and I would still log it as it happens. You don't drive in the same town with multiple drops. Do what your company says. You can falsify all you want as a local company driver as long as your start and stop time are correct and you have a 10 hour break on both sides.Why? Because you are exempt and the log page is no longer a legal document. It's just a company thing. You still have time cards, right? That's your legal document.

It sounds like your company makes bad choices hiring safety directors!

Many LTL will make everyone log if one driver goes outside the circle.

As a local driver you are exempt from 395.8 therefore no violation.

You are exempt, 395.1 e

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.1

The company can tell you to do anything. The reason they do it is because occasionally a local driver might step outside the circle. Then he has to log and show the previous 7 days. Making every one log just makes it easier on them.

Fire the new safety director.

 

E-logs, lol. Doing muti-stop foodservice delivers, I am so glad that this company has E-logs, lol

 

Dot Intrepretations - 395.8

Question 6 How should multiple short stops in a town or city be recorded on a RODS?

Answer: All stops made in any one city, town, village or municipality may be computed as one. In such cases the sum of all stops should be shown as a continous line as on-duty [not driving]. The aggregate driving time between such stops should be entered on the RODS immediately following the off-duty [not driving] entry. The name of the city, town, village or municipality where all the stops took place must appear in the "remarks" section of the Record Of Duty Status [RODS].

So you do not have to draw the 'sawtooth' showing every move inside the same town. (4) stops of 15 min each and (3) stints of driving between each for 15 min would be shown as one hour on line 4 followed by 0.75 hr on line 3. While this takes some thought; it has to be easier than going up and down between lines 4 and 3 every 15 min. Obviously there is not way to check this for every minute spent so one can 'round' off to show an even amount of time.

One post questioned if this was falsification but if the DOT says you can do it this way it is not falsification.

Accounting for the driving time is kinda new [inthe past 10 - 15 years or so. I remember the Safety Director from Matlack describing how, years ago, the terminal in Lester, PA used to haul gasoline around Philadelphia out of a refinery on Passyunk Ave. They used to log 15 min driving from Lester to Philadelphia and the whole day on line 4 and show 15 min driving back to Lester. That WAS legal back then