Ohio commercial License permit restrictions

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  1. doninwooster

    doninwooster Light Load Member

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    So I received my Ohio CL Permit, so the next step is school. ONe school I am interested in is CFI's program in Missouri. Unfortunately, according to the examiner at the test center, Ohio's CP permit restricts driving out of state on public roadways. Dagnabit! I need to figure a way to get a Missouri permit, but I don't think that will be possible due to I do not have a Missouri residential address. I have to speak to a recruiter and see what /if any options I have. Wish they would have mentioned this to me before. On the bright side, I did get my permit. I am still going to investigate this further.
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    I think you might have wasted your money. See if you can find a school in Ohio. These school's have special procedures to help out of state students get the CDL. Sorry.
     
  4. doninwooster

    doninwooster Light Load Member

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    I did not waste my money. If I cannot use my permit at an out of State school, I will attend one in Ohio.
     
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  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Yes, I think maybe I did not make my point plain. Good luck!!
     
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  6. Chinatown

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    CFI recruits from almost every state for students to attend their school.
    Call the recruiter because I think you're ok.
    If CFI depended on Missouri residents to attend their school, they'd have to shut it down.
     
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  7. s0231198

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    From the Ohio BMV Website:
    First-Time Applicants
    To obtain a CDL or Commercial Learner Permit (CLP), a driver is required to be at least 18 years old, possess a valid Ohio driver license, and provide proof of U.S. citizenship or permanent residency in the United States.

    • A CLP holder can only operate a commercial motor vehicle on a highway when driving with a CDL holder properly endorsed for the vehicle being driven.
    • A CLP is valid for six months and may be renewed once before it expires.
    • Drivers seeking to obtain a CDL or CLP must self-certify their type of driving.
    • After a CDL is issued, adding a passenger endorsement, upgrading the license or removing a restriction require both knowledge and skills tests.
    I am from Ohio and that's the first that I have heard that you can't drive out of state on a learners permit. I went through a CDL school out of state many years ago. The reason he may have said that, is bc maybe you self-certified yourself as an Intrastate when getting your CDL learners permit.
     
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  8. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    That's not the primary problem. The problem is going out of state and testing. This is why some states like Indiana have a temp 90 day license for out of state students. They get this 90 day license then go home and get it converted.
     
  9. Dan.S

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    No, @Moose1958, testing out of state is NOT a problem.


    CFR 383.79 covers this issue.

    Unless a state is not in compliance with aforementioned regulation, in which case...pressure can be brought to bear, in order to encourage compliance.
     
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  10. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    (sigh) Where did I say impossible? Dang it is getting tiresome having my words twisted into something I DID NOT SAY. Problems are things that come up that cause a person to go through extra steps. It is a problem because in most every state like Indiana you do have to surrender your license. That is a problem. jeez.
     
  11. Dan.S

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    A student from state (a), with a learners permit from their home state, can test in state (b), and when the test results are transmitted electronically to state (a) the license will be issued.

    It isn’t complex, but, compliance with the regulation has taken much longer than it should have.



    I don’t understand what you mean, about surrendering a license, etc.

    There is no reason for that to occur since the compliance date of 2015, with 383.79...

    If Indiana issues a non-resident permit, that’s great. I see no provision in the regulation for requiring that, however, and as a general rule, the states I am familiar with, will not issue a non-resident permit, rendering that individual circumstance of limited value in a discussion not specifically pointed towards an Indiana based school.


    To summarize, per current regulation, students do not need to hold a learners permit from the state in which they test.
     
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