No power to Tripac evo APU after changing alternator belt

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by mhlvc, Oct 16, 2023.

  1. mhlvc

    mhlvc Light Load Member

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    Belt broke so I changed it. Went to fire up the apu by doing an alternator test on the Tripac program on laptop. The APU reved up and turned off. Now I have no power on the APU at all, what can be the issue here?
    The 50amp fuse on the Apu seems fine,
    not sure what else to check
     
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  3. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Belts can break because they wear out, or the device they are driving makes an excessive demand on the belt, which breaks the belt. When a belt breaks it doesn't always leave evidence on the belt WHY it broke. Ideally, the belt that broke was so new you are confident it wasn't the belt breaking because of "old age". If so, it suggests something about the APU driven generator/alternator caused the belt to break and replacing the belt isn't solving that underlying generator/alternator problem. The more electrical power demanded the more difficult it is to turn the generator/alternator, which puts more stress on the belt. Maybe a bearing in the gen/alt is worn out? Maybe there is an electrical fault in the g/a?
     
  4. mhlvc

    mhlvc Light Load Member

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    Before I replaced the belt the APU was turning on and had electricity.
    It kept shutting off with an Alternator Check error code. I looked at the alternator and saw the belt was broke. Replaced it, booted up the TriPac soctware and did an Alternator check service test. The APU started, revved up and then shut down.
    All of the electricity to the motherboard and APU is gone. I just replaced the 50AMP fuse on the apu it self and the 150 master fuse at the trucks battery compartment and still nothing.
    Wtf happened here? Im so confused and have no idea what to try next
     
  5. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Few things it could be. Right off the top of my head if you have replaced all the fuses and still no power. Either a cable has corroded and no power is getting to the unit or also likely is one of the fuses inside the box on the board itself has cooked off. Mine was in the box under the bunk. i would open that up and check all the fuses on it and the ones on the board itself. If the fuses are blown check for grounding caused by corrosion or other issues like rubbing wires. If fuses, wires and cables are good and you got no power check to see if your control unit has a fuse in it. I had an older one that did but the newer ones dont. If all the above dont help you may have fried the board and will need thermoking to test it.

    As for belt snapping after alt problems then a blown fuse. Then there is a good chance the alt is fried or the pully has siezed. Id check the pully for free play after checking the fuses. Also check the wires on it to make sure non have corroded or come loose. Check both ends as the ground on my old unit rusted off at the frame.
     
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  6. mhlvc

    mhlvc Light Load Member

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    So once I replaced the belt and turned on the APU - lets say the alternator was bad - the APU revving up and shutting down - thus losing all electricity - something like that could cause the motherboard to fry? I hope its nots the motherboard since there’s no way Im paying $1,000+ for that since this APU gives me nothing but problems.
    Ill check every single fuse tomorrow and all the rest you mentioned - but wouldnt the APU still have electricity if all the fuses/wires
    are good and the alternator is bad?
    Maybe the old belt snapped because the alternator is in fact bad/seized
     
  7. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    There is a reason i threw away my thermocant crypack for a green apu especially after it threw a rod. That said yup if the alt was bad, it very well could have caused a huge short or power surge and cook a motherboard or any number of other things, especially if the regulator went bad. Thats one thing that happened to mine.

    As towards the not having power. Again depends on how the alt failed, if its causeing a short then power wont even go as far as your box before it shuts down That said 9 times out of 10 no power means a popped fuse, a bad wire or a fried computer. Usually some combination thereof. Popped fuse usually means a short, a short means a popped fuse and either of those can cook electronics if your unlucky.
     
  8. mhlvc

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    So theres no way to check if the motherboard is fried except taking it to TK? Im definitely never going there so hope to figure this out
     
  9. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    Sure there is. Open it up and check the fuses. If they are fine and the wires are fine get a voltage checker and start checking the system to determine where power is stopping. If the board has power, no bad fuses and there is no power leaving the board, its fried. If power is leaving the board but the control unit is not lighting up its a diffrent issue.

    At this point your best bet is to check ALL the fuses (youtube has guides on this) and all your cables then work your way up the system looking for the short. Its time consuming as hell but not particularly hard. And you can get a cheap checker from more or less anywhere nowadays. I think even walmart carrys multimeters at this point.

    I dont have the manuals for your thermoking to know the exact voltages to look for but TK likely can email you that info if you call them. Should be pretty cheap too if they have a repair manual.
     
    mhlvc Thanks this.
  10. mhlvc

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    Using a fuse checker (not multimeter) none of the fuses currently lit up on the motherboard or the main big 50amp fuse on the apu itself. Im guessing Ill have to physically inspect them? The green light on the motherboard doesnt even lit up or blink like it usually does, so either theres a bad fuse, no power coming to the motherboard? Hopefully I figure it out, fried motherboard prob means Ill be getting rid of it.

    Would unplugging the main 3-knob ThermoKing controller in the sleeper cab (where you turn on the heat/cool/fan) and plugging it back in after a while do anything? (just saw a video on it) But Im guessing that wont do anytning
     
  11. mhlvc

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    Well it was the mega fuse 200 that was in my trucks batteries. After replacing - the APU has power. Thank god it wasnt the motherboard.
    Now Im not sure if to turn on the APU and see if it works or not - might blow the fuse again or make more problems.
    Going to inspect alternator and see if its good and then give it a go I guess
     
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