No exhaust stack ?

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by lucky07, Mar 16, 2013.

  1. lucky07

    lucky07 Light Load Member

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    First Of All Sorry All About All The Caps. Phone Isn't Cooperating With Me Today.

    Long Story Short. I Was Sent Out To Winnipeg With A Truck Which They Put A Stack On That Was Way Too Tall. It's A Daycab So They Had Nowhere To Anchor The Stack And It Was Simply Being Supported By Its Connection To The Muffler. That Connection Being The Pivot Point Guess What Happened Next... Stack Bent Backwards And Broke The Weld Where The Collar Is.

    Now For The All Mighty Question. I Tore The Stack Off (Collar Came With It) As It's Kinda UndSafe To Drive Around With A Half Attached Exhaust Stack. Now The Muffler Has To Be Replaced, Which Was Inevitable Anyways. Anyone Know If There Are Any Legal Issues With Running It Without The Stack?

    It Grumbles A Bit Now But Its A Nice Sound. Nowhere Near Being Too Loud, I've Heard Trucks With Stacks Louder Than That. So The Muffler Is Doing Its Job Still So I Dont See The Problem With Waiting Til I Get Home To Fix It.

    Any Input Will Be Appreciated. And Sorry Again About All The Caps For Those Of You Who Read This Anyways.
     
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  3. dschmidt201

    dschmidt201 Light Load Member

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    If you don't get cought it didn't happen don't tell on yourself and weld the thing back together yourself good as new
     
  4. lucky07

    lucky07 Light Load Member

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    Oh Im Not Worried About The Company Or The Muffler At All. Its The Legality Of Running Without A Stack In Ontario And Manitoba Im Worried About. As Far As Im Concerned Its Just A Cosmetic Issue Because The Muffler Is Still Operating As It Should. Cant Be Welded Back Easily Im Affraid, Thats Why Im Wondering If I Can Just Do It When I Get Back To Ottawa And Have A Proper Shop To Play In.
     
  5. lucky07

    lucky07 Light Load Member

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    So Im Legal According To That. Should Be The Same Up Here, I Doubt The Regulations Would Be Stricter Here. Thx
     
  6. not4hire

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    aiwiron Thanks this.
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    not4hire Road Train Member

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    NSC Standard 13: Trip Inspections
    Schedule 1 - Truck, Tractor and Trailer


    10. Exhaust System Defect(s)
    • Exhaust leak.
    Major Defect(s)
    • Leak that causes exhaust gas to enter the occupant compartment.

    http://www.ccmta.ca/english/pdf/nsc_standard_13.pdf pg. 5



    Province of Alberta
    TRAFFIC SAFETY ACT
    COMMERCIAL VEHICLE SAFETY REGULATION
    Alberta Regulation 121/2009



    Exhaust
    9(1) In this section, “exhaust system” includes exhaust manifolds.

    (2) The standards to be met by the exhaust system are as follows:

    (a) no component of the exhaust system must be missing, perforated, patched or insecurely mounted;
    (b) no part of the exhaust system must be closer than 50 millimetres to wiring, any part of a fuel or brake component or any combustible material that is not protected by a shield;
    (c) no component of the exhaust system must pass through the occupant compartment;
    (d) the exhaust system must be designed and situated so that an individual who enters or leaves the vehicle cannot be burned by any component;
    (e) no leakage may occur at any point in the exhaust system, except through drain holes provided by the manufacturer;
    (f) an exhaust system must not be shortened or modified from the original equipment so that it fails to direct the outlet of the system more than 150 millimetres from the periphery of the occupant, sleeper or luggage compartments past which the exhaust is directed.

    http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Regs/2009_121.pdf pg. 51



    The preceeding is going to be consistent with the regulations for MB & ON.
     
  8. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    Actually some restrictions are stricter in canada, load securement for example. If you have a 4" strap and thw WLL tag is missingb, in the US the strap is considered rated as the lowest rating per inch for nylon straps. But in canada is any securement device is missing it's markings/wll rating tag they consider it's WLL rating to be 0.
     
  9. not4hire

    not4hire Road Train Member

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    The strap is still useable if the WLL is printed on the strap as most, if not all, manufacturers do.

    NSC Standard 10: Cargo Securement, Division 3 - Requirements for Cargo Securement Systems, Section 12 Unmarked Securing Devices, and PART 3 - Default Working Load Limits, were deleted September 2010 and the amended version became effective January 1, 2011.

    http://www.ccmta.ca/english/committees/cra/cargo/pdf/NSC_10_Sept_2010_Final.pdf
     
  10. gravdigr

    gravdigr Road Train Member

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    And we all know how nice and clean those straps stay, most of the ones I see are faded from yellow to grey with no discernable writing on them.

    I actually heard about this on the radio as a driver got put oos because the markings on his chains were worn to the point the inspector in canada couldn't read them.
     
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