No CDL, do I have to have a DOT medical card? Logs ?

If you're over 10K GCWR and dri ving commercially, you are subject to the same medical and HOS requirements as a CDL driver.

 

You must check with the state officials. If you run intrastate and under 26000 you may not need the med card nor the log book as this is a state by state rule. Remember it is the GCWR that you are plated for that is important not what you really weigh.And yes I know of what I speak after 6 years and 7 or 8 inspections. I have had one officer pull me over 3 times and each had to let me go without a citation In your question you said that you sometimes run interstate, you cross state lines, then you must have MC #, DOT #, med card, IFTA, etc as if you are a big truck.

 

I don't see you needing logs unless you have a sleeper attached to your truck. Ihave always been a class a driver hauling heavy equipment with day cab and going across state lines on occasion. Been dot pulled over a few times and never once had a dot ask me for log books. Now as a owner operator of a class b truck, I don't run log books. I don't know the specific law but I'm gonna say no, you don't need a log book. Case in point, my buddy was just pulled over in his dually in the middle of the night on the way to a destination 4 states away pulling a deckover which requires class A. No mention of log books. He was on his way after the stop. So my thinking is, semi truck with sleeper attached, you need a log book. Hell, I'm not subject to a log book with my 80k triaxle dump truck and I can run double shifts with no log books. How so? because I don't have a sleeper. No, Dot doesn't ask me for log books when I go through check points

 

Just because you've never been asked doesn't mean they aren't required. If you're engaged in interstate commerce with a GCWR exceeding 10K pounds, you are subject to the HOS. If you operate inside of a 100 air-mile radius, start & end at the same location inside of 12 hours, and your company maintains a record of your hours worked, then you are exempt from the RODS requirement...but STILL subject to HOS. Often times if you're stopped and the officer can see from your CDL that you're a local resident, and your BOL indicates a local P/U and Del, they assume you're operating under the short-haul exception (100 air-mile rule) and won't ask. If you're 4 states away, you'd better be in the N/E where you could spit clear across a state or two or else if you are asked, you WILL BE shut down for as long as necessary for the officer to believe you are legal to roll...could be 10 hours...might be 34 (if you're a jerk or make yourself out to be a hard-charger racking up the miles and pushing the HOS to the limit). Whether you have a sleeper or not has absolutely NOTHING to do with the applicability of the HOS regulations. The only thing it really affects is your ability to convince the officer that you are indeed a local driver. A day cabber obviously doesn't live in his truck, and a well-stocked sleeper cab probably isn't home every night.

 

Fair enough. You win brotha. Can’t argue with that at all

 

In California you will need logs( unless you are within 100 miles and return home and work less than 12 hours etc) and are considered commercial with that setup up.They even do terminal bit inspection for under 26k trucks now here.If you arent the truck owner you also need DVIR's filled out everyday and 90 day inspections done on the truck (intrastate).Lots of rules and regs to do anything with commercial truck even for private carriers that arent for hire.

 

there some new laws esp when it comes to bull haulers we get 150 miles before we even have to start a log book when running cross country

 

That does not make sense.

If you stay inside 150 miles and home that day no logs.

HOWEVER.. if you have to run bulls 1000 miles you will start that logbook the minute you touch that truck getting ready to go.

 

from what i was told it starts right after u break the 150 for every load a place in tx told e it just went in affect un last couple.months they gave me some apers that showed how it worked but i cant find the paperwork they gave me that explained it