New-farm plated semi and hopper advise/help

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by tyler7191, Jan 4, 2025.

  1. tyler7191

    tyler7191 Bobtail Member

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    I’m in IL and just bought my first truck and hopper bottom to use for my own farm use to haul grain. The truck is going to be owned by a LLC. It’s a single member LLC that I am the only member of. My insurance is allowing both the LLC and me personally to be named insureds so that is covered. I realize that I am exempt from a lot having farm plates and not working for hire but wondering about the DOT and 2290 form. Most all the grain it will haul is going to be mine personally not the LLC. Do I need to setup an operating agreement or lease from the LLC to me personally? As far as the DOT goes I am told I need one since our elevator is considered a rail terminal. Can the DOT number be in my name even though I don’t own the truck? Then how is it displayed “operated by or leased to”? In regards to the 2290 I believe I need to file it but will be exempt based on miles. This is tied directly to the registered owner not the DOT holder right? Thank you for any help. All very new to me trying to start of correct and legal. Thanks!
     
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  3. Ridgeline

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    if the grain is yours, then you are hauling it for yourself, right?

    Is the farm in the same LLC?

    EDIT - why are you putting the truck into an LLC?

    If you are for tax purposes, then you miss out on the offset used to offset the farm profits.

    If you are using it to protect your assets, it won't work. The LLC does not limit your liabilities and the vail has been removed in court many times.

    Why?

    Because you are the owner of the truck, you are the operator of the truck and the farm is your property.

    I would just put it in the farm's name and don't try to hassle with the contracts, etc. ... to make it legal.

    As for the 2290, call the IRS and ask them. I think there is an exemption because around me, there are an awful lot of idle trucks and they only move during harvest, I don't see them paying the tax just to sit.
     
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  4. abyliks

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    No 2290 for farm plates

    dot number must match farm and name on truck, technically if just the truck is In an LLC then it’s not owned by the farm and you are lending a farm plate out, big no-no,

    no operating agreement as you are then a carrier, not a farmer

    truck needs to be either titled to the farm or legally registered under llc
     
  5. tyler7191

    tyler7191 Bobtail Member

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    what if the truck is jointly titled and insured in both the LLC and Individual names both as equal owners?
     
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    tyler7191 Bobtail Member

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    the reason for the LLC to own it was for insurance purposes. It was able to get a much cheaper rate but needed to be separate for personal autos. If it was combined with personal autos it made it more expensive and poorer deductibles as they had to have all personal and commercial vehicles. Titling the truck in the LLC was my way around that. Or could I just jointly title it? As far as the farm the farm has 2 different operators one and a majority is myself as an individual the other is a single member LLC that I am the only member of-the only reason for this was to separate it for crop insurance purposes. Sorry the truck thing is all new to me.
     
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  7. Ridgeline

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    I understand what you are trying to do but farmers I deal with have the truck in their name or in the farms name. The insurance isn’t much, it isn’t commercial insurance like a for hire operation but farm insurance.
     
  8. Judge

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    If farm tagged on Arkansas you’re allowed 7500 miles/year just go to 2290 and put whatever letter is for exempt. They’ll still want to see it to renew tags.
     
  9. Long FLD

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    My cousin has 3 trucks, 3 grain trailers, 2 cow trailers, and a hay trailer in South Dakota. Nothing is insured on its own, everything is just covered under their blanket farm policy. And they have three corporations set up for all their stuff. The farthest they get away from home is maybe 130 miles at the most.
     
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