New Driver Progression

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by TigardTrash, Jul 11, 2022.

  1. TigardTrash

    TigardTrash Bobtail Member

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    Hey all,

    Pretty much my first post after lurking for a long time, but at this stage I have a few questions for the more experienced folks.

    I got my CDL almost a year ago exactly, a Class A with all the endorsements. I didn't have a perfect record so my choices of starter companies were limited, that being said there were a few. In October I selected one that was real close to my home in spite of some negativity, as a starting driver one should not have too high of expectations, and so far I have been pretty happy. I started out dry van Western Regional, like everybody else new here, and the skills assessment/ training phase was approximately a week with a Mentor trip to middle Cali right before solo'ing out. I did fine, although a lot of people washed out and the one other fellow I know that graduated skills with me has two accidents already by six months in. I've been given two raises and a promotion in the nine months that I have been here and I am now running dedicated I-5 corridor running paper goods, so with my Safety bonus I am doing almost 70K a year.

    There are of course, issues, what part of trucking did you NOT grasp, eh? Like going for a Live Load, getting your empty "scammed" off of you by the shipper and used for another load, resulting in your searching half of SoCal for a dry empty using up all your HoS for nothing, you folks know the drill. I try to take it in stride, after all what other job will pay you while you learn to do it properly? I get 9000 plus miles a month, I could hit 10K if the screw ups quit happening but I am resigning myself to just be patient and let what will be, be. As of now I have just shy of nine months experience, almost a hundred thousand accident and relatively trouble free miles, and although I am NOT looking to bail I am wondering- "what is next?" - In other words, what should I logically look to be doing from here?

    I am committed to finish out at least my first year where I am, as a former business owner myself I know all too well the dangers of "spotty resume", and i don't wish to look like a Prima Donna. That being said, I DID get all the endorsements and the thought of hauling fuel or whatnot doesn't scare me especially, nor does Hazmat. My preferences are to be out weeks at a time, followed by several days off at one sitting, as I HATE 34 hour resets where there is not enough time to DO anything. All I can think of is "why am I not on the truck, making money?" instead of relaxing as is apparently intended. Also, my driving record has improved, I have only one citation in the last three years and I have resolved myself to keeping it that way. Clean DAC and I have no bad things on me from my current employer, in fact they were very complimentary when I went to ask them if there were ways I could improve. They had nothing but the Director of Driver Development DID recommend me for this Dedicated position, so I feel I am developing as a driver pretty well. I get out and look when I have to, don't let cowboys push me act too fast and I actually "care" how others' perceive my driving, and how it reflects back on my Company and myself.


    So what would you folks recommend as a "next step" here in October, when I reach one year? Or should I just sit it out for another year to get to the two year mark? I feel I am doing about as well as I can where I am, but I would like to run with a company that would accommodate the kind of schedule that I mentioned., hopefully West coast based, so I don't have to fly a bunch on my time off. Don't really like to be micro-managed, hence why I am happy with dedicated like I am. Hardly ever talk to my DM, and it isn't because we don't get along, it is just the way things are. Let me know your thoughts if you wouldn't mind, I would really appreciate it. Also, and as an aside I HAVE thought of O/O but right now with the volatility in the market, PLUS my inexperience I feel it would be a bad move. My plans are to look into that about two-three years down the road if things have stabilized a bit more.

    Thanks for any and all advice, criticisms, what have you- they are greatly appreciated......

    Keep the hammer down and the shiny side up,
    TigardTrash
     
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  3. ThomasTrucker21

    ThomasTrucker21 Medium Load Member

    My opinion, if you can put up with where you’re at then I’d stay until you can’t atleast for résumé purposes. I got my CDL in 2020 and jumped ship from my first company six months in but I’ve been with the company I’m with now every since. With you having all your endorsements and a year I don’t think you’ll have a hard time finding another job. Id explore options just to have a fall back plan
     
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  4. YumDinger

    YumDinger Light Load Member

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    Drive a truck that doesn't have a bed in the back.
     
  5. chalplec

    chalplec Light Load Member

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    My first two years was with a large mega carrier. I did dry van, reefer, flatbed, step deck, curtain side, and oversize. I just wanted to learn as much as I could.

    I feel like your first year you really don't learn much. You get comfortable with driving and backing but year two is when (at least I and most people I know) really begin to understand how to make money. That means utilizing your clock and being efficient mostly. But also sleep and learning how to solve problems yourself instead of calling somebody. My first year every dock I was in I was perched up in the driver seat just twiddling my thumbs watching my clock drain for 6-7 hours then PC to a truck stop and go to sleep for a 10 hour break. Now I'm in bed sleeping. They'll knock on the door when I've overstayed my welcome and I'll be ready to go on my split sleeper berth. I bought my own jumper cables, I carry spare lights and air couplings, etc. They don't pay me to play mechanic but they don't pay me to sit for 6 hours to have a headlight bulb changed either. I also call every receiver ahead of time because dispatchers don't know how to tie their own shoes yet alone give you the proper information. I've been burned one too many times on sitting at a truck stop all morning to deliver at a 2PM appointment just for it to be FCFS, or to drive to a place because dispatch said they have parking just to be told I can't stay even if I deliver at 5AM and have to drive somewhere to park then shut down and be late for that appointment. I do my own homework and due diligence.

    The chasing empties and dealing with typical BS is going to exist no matter where you go. Hell I know some local drivers that show up to work and there's no truck for them to take because their's is in the shop and the loaners are all gone already. You're going to have to deliver at 2AM and then sit somewhere until 7-8AM for somebody to come in the office because they didn't preplan you. You're gonna have loads cancel on you and have to sit and wait for a reload. It's trucking. It happens everywhere. I work at a small carrier now of just 200 trucks and the day to day BS doesn't change. It's just more tolerable when you're addressed by your name and not a truck number or employee code and take home $1600 a week instead of $600. I wish I made $70K at the company I started at. Didn't even see $50K in my 2 years there. Just a bottom of the barrel company hauling bottom of the barrel freight, Rolling Over Every Hill Last. ;)
     
  6. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    Please explain how that could happen, and how you actually let it happen.
     
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  7. Geekonthestreet

    Geekonthestreet Medium Load Member

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    I switched to a good paying hazmat company at my year, but I was already doing hazmat in year one so I knew the job market. If you’re dead set on van I’d rock that cake route then move on to Walmart. No sense tripping over dollars to pick up pennies. From my experience the good paying tanker routes are either really dangerous or have anal customers. I was sitting in the sample lab and an employee complained that I didn’t have safety goggles over my glasses today. I also had to don full PPE just to scale in. Many drivers have been banned from this plant.
     
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  8. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    @TigardTrash There are a lot of good companies in your area. Keep going like you have been and when you get near that one year mark. start talking to some of them. Do some research and figure out what kind of trucking you want. Lot of other than pulling a box type work up there. Tanker, whether chemical or fuel, both pay well as does flatbed if you get with good companies.
    We have a member of the forum @otterinthewater who started with W/E, did his year and now is an O/O.
     
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  9. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Fantastic. It's nice to read about a new driver acting responsibly instead of like a spoiled teenager. I vote for tanker, if you can find a company near your home or you are prepared to move near their yard. Tanker customers do not play games or treat you like a skunk that just wondered onto their property. Pulling a tanker is something ANY safe driver can do. It is not for those drivers that drive like they are in an SUV fleeing from the cops. The slosh or surge feels like getting punted by Superman when you are at low speeds, but it isn't dangerous at low speeds. It feels mild at higher speeds, but that is when it is more dangerous. You may have to search for a tanker outfit if you really want to stay out a few weeks to earn longer home time. Many tanker companies have you home every 5-7 days, but there are some others that keep you out. Tankers with their 45-48 foot length are much easier to park in crowded truck stops, and you can keep your hood intact. Out west there are a lot of 53 foot 109k lbs tankers. It wouldn't have a strong preference for food-grade or HazMat. The only practical difference I saw as a HM driver was you cannot park on shoulders or ramps for 10 hour breaks, but I didn't do that before anyway. It's a dangerous and stupid habit, HM or not.

    I would recommend you look at Quality Carriers/Quality Distribution, now owned by CSX railroad. I worked for them and liked them. They are nationwide, but each terminal is like its own universe. The terminal manger is king, the pay and conditions vary per terminal. Tanker companies almost always have every safety doodad possible installed for insurance reasons.

    Besides QC, Indian River is a national tanker company and Oakley Transport is big, I don't know if they operate near the West coast. Indian River has a yard for a dedicated account in Grandview, WA.
     
  10. Geekonthestreet

    Geekonthestreet Medium Load Member

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    QC pays quite well. It’s not uncommon to make 2400/week starting out of the right terminal. Their dedicated lanes pay a LOT
     
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  11. lual

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    Follow-up to the above info: I would respectfully submit that....Oakley Transport may be a good option--but ONLY if you have previous tanker experience, and you want to do food-grade tanker.

    Been there, done that. :rolleyes:

    --Lual
     
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