Need help with cdl restriction

It was the addition of a single endorsement, not a full A test.

 

Hey grouch. So when this dude goes in to add a passenger endorsement to his CDL A, they also add the Automatic restriction to a prior CDL-A holder because you know now he has passenger endorsement he must of forgot how to drive a manual. That is some ###-backwards thinking.

How about this analogy. Guy goes in to renew his hazmat and they add the air-brake restriction to his license, because while driving the testing computer, it did not have air-brakes.

A little common sense please.

 

The guy took a skills/road test. There is no place on a CDL for a restriction for class A and another for a P endorsement. It is what it is. The FMCSA requires an E restriction for ANY CDL if the last skills/road test is done in an automatic. You can call it backward or anything else but it don't change FMCSA rules.

Edited to add one more point. Since when is everything coming from the FMCSA about common sense?

 

So if a 30 year Class A CDL holder decides to add a passenger endorsement in order to drive a church bus on the weekend, and obviously tests for that endorsement using an automatic because practically no one has a standard transmission bus now, he must now assume an automatic restriction on his license? I'm not arguing with your interpretation of the rule but I don't see how they can basically downgrade your license status for adding an ENDORSEMENT. I'm guessing this scenario wasn't considered when the automatic restriction was put into practice...

 

The 2ndbest solution is to add a PE endorsement to the CDL that lets you stil drive a class A vehicle as before but adds an automatic transmission restriction to driving a bus. Don't forget this comes from the anti-trucker FMCSA, the best solution is to stop doing these restrictions.

 

Some one mentioned that when you take a test in an automatic, you get the restriction, that's not right.

You are adding an endorsement to the base license which is the class a. The restriction is a mistake, the class a is the license that counts, the restriction is related to the foundation license not the endorsement. I took my test in a juice brake bus, I got no restrictions because as the examiner and the lady changing my license to add the p and s endorsement said you already have the air brake endorsement, so no restrictions.

 

I have a restriction on my license that my class A CDL is only valid as a class B if I'm driving a passenger vehicle, because the passenger vehicle I tested in was a class B. Luckily, that was in the days before the automatic transmission restriction, but the OP's situation shows the necessity of looking over your license EVERY time you renew or make changes to it to ensure it is correct BEFORE you leave. Once you walk out the door, it gets more and more difficult to resolve whatever issues you may have.

 

Same thing happened with me. You already passed the air brake and such back when you took the test in a road tractor. The fact that the most recent test was taken in another type of vehicle doesn't negate the fact that you already passed their test in the first vehicle. It would be like taking away a person's ability to drive a car when they show up at the DMV to take a motorcycle test.

 

Over here in Illinois, they want you to do a pre trip test, skills test, and road test in a school bus in order to put P endorsement on your cdl even though I already have a class A, I only asked for the heck of it at the dmv, after I heard that I asked why, guy at the dmv said, you can hurt a lot of people driving a bus of you get into an accident and said it real smart like, so I said I bet even more people would get hurt if I was doing 70 down the hwy with 80,000 lbs not paying attention and crashed into a bunch of cars, he had no reply, whoever makes these laws probably doesn't even have a driver's license.