Hello Everyone,
I am hoping to get some feedback from those that have tried a retrofit DPF any pre-2003 Detroit 60 engine truck. Was this a good idea or not? Did you lose money? Is your truck still running?
I am asking because the only thing I have found on testing whether a truck can handle a DPF retrofit well or not is to test the soot levels of the exhaust. So, I'm trying to find out anyone else's experience that have done it already. Thank you very much in advance for your replies.
NEED FEEDBACK: DPF Retrofit on Detroit 60 Engine - Good or Bad?
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jpeters72155, Jun 9, 2015.
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pros: anytime when dpf clogged you can remove front clamp to have pressure dropped and can drive to repair place. its not connected to engine ecm and anytime you can take off the whole system.
cons: lower mpg, short dpf cleaning intervals if you run colder(Midwest, northeast, , northwest) states and medium to light loads. dpf's with active regeneration will solve this issue but its expensive.jpeters72155 Thanks this. -
The non-ecm DPF units you can have a light added to your dash. To let you know when to have filter cleaned.
Its big business in Cali. They have been cracking down on "non-authorized" installers.
For what its worth, I have personal knowledge of. 2000-2003 trucks 2004-2007 running retro-fit.
Avg. Is down to 3-5mpg and then the 3-6 month interval of $700-$3000 to clean or replace filter.
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I have done the retrofit, BUT, its on a Cat engine. I can not speak for a Detroit. Mine has work extremely well. Fuel mileage has been averaging about the same. The only difference I have noticed is the EGT's run about 100* warmer the way I drove it before the retrofit, But when I raise the rpm's, the EGT's drop right away. I basically had to adjust to where to keep the rpm range when the engine is working harder. Im also not running a stock engine, the flash file, fls/fts and turbo all have been change. BUT meets CARB guidelines. The OP keeps mentioning about testing to see if his Detroit engine can handle a retrofit ? I answered this either here on a different thread or forum, I cant remember, anyhow, I don't know of any test and never heard of a test that can be done to see if any particular engine can handle the retrofit. When you go to a certified CARB shop, they are going to install a data log probe in your exhaust to measure the heat like a pyro and will record it for 2 weeks or so. That will determine what size filter you will need and I can tell you now, its gonna be an R-40. Your looking around $15,000 to $16,000. Beware of the quality workmanship. Just remember, you will always get what you pay for.
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Thank you mhyn, thank you peterbuilt_2005 and thank you Diesel Dave! I appreciate the feedback/perspective given. It really helps a lot and I'll be weighing my decision with the responses in mind. Thanks again.
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if you are doing it to run calif you need to go to the CARB wesite,,Calif will only approve retrofits done in authorized shops,,I would not do it,,the cost is too much for just a few more years of running in Calif
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I should have said earlier that our fleet and company are based in California so we are stuck
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