my new flea market find a radio shack 447 still in box ten bucks

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by RollingWave, Jun 8, 2013.

  1. RollingWave

    RollingWave Bobtail Member

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    Found this at a swap meet the no price and the guy said ten bucks

    It's kinda like a Uniden 78 or a Cobra 29 but it's Radio shack

    Hooked it up to my rooftop

    Now the receive is excellent on this radio but I assume it has factory settings of power no confirmed radio checks but on talkback mode the audio sounds through the speaker

    I live 15 miles in from the main highway and the Truckstops which I can hit on my old basestation

    I looked online for mods but found nothing

    Anybody know anything about these radios or for ten bucks ill just throw it in my ratty old jeep on a
     
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  3. RollingWave

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    Well you can forget pics from my phone ####### Vbulletin

    Vbulletin sucks yet they got more than haft the forums running Vbulletin platform
     
  4. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    I wasn't sure from your post, but are you able to be heard at the local TS with your new Rat Shack?
    If not (or even if so), I wouldn't be so quick to look for mods (most of which just tear up your signal) and get the radio tuned back to spec, THEN see about doing mumbo-jumbo to the innards.
    Are you able to tell us the Rat Shack model number, if not from the front, then on the FCC label on the back? That will help us get a little better ideal of what failure modes are common to that model, or where to look if it doesn't seem up to snuff. EDIT: Sorry, I just noticed it's a model TRC-447, which is functionally much like a Cobra 29. The fact that it receives well is a good sign; it means that the receive switching at the antenna port is working (well, halfway -- to receive) and the receiver chain hasn't been butchered. A lot of manufacturers OEM'd radios for lotsa brands, so the innards will likely be immediately obvious to an experienced tech. Look at how many Cobra and Uniden radios were made at the same factory. :)
    "Radio Shack -- you've got questions, we've got blank stares."

    Since the receiver works fine, and unless the transmitter parts have been out of production since Christ was a corporal, a fix (if it needs more than just a competent alignment) shouldn't be prohibitively expensive -- but expect a competent tech to run through the entire radio. Otherwise, you're likely to end up with a radio that receives "just OK" but that has transmitter that goes great guns. "Real Technicians" check everything before they turn a radio loose so as to avoid endless "re-works" under service warranty.

    HTH,
    73
     
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  5. RollingWave

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    @handlebar

    It says TRC-447 the copyright says 2004 so about 10 years old

    I pulled the covers there are some potentiometers inside but not much going on under there compared to pulling the top off a Cobra or a Galaxy.

    And no I did not get out no radio check conformation but I heard plenty

    If there was a way to identify the pots clearly I might be able to do something
     
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  6. MsJamie

    MsJamie Road Train Member

    *cringes*...
     
  7. RollingWave

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    Well I found nothing online so far other than clipping the limmiter and spreading the coils

    Now you can Google or post a question about most other radios and get some answers

    I hope maybe somebody sees this that has tinker with these radios but it's totally different than anything I've ever pulled the covers off.
     
  8. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    As to spreading the coils, mostly what it does is increase the out-of-band signals that the transmitter puts out, where it A) does you no good, and B) interferes with other services, like commercial FM broadcast and aeronautical radio services. Clipping the limiter lets the radio splatter onto several (or many) other channels on the band, wasting the power that the "tech's" feel-good meter shows your radio is transmitting. If you've dialed up on Ch 19, it's completely possible that your noise is being heard from above Ch 40 to below Ch 1. Look up those frequencies and see who uses them -- a lot of them are U.S. military tactical channels, which you *won't* hear, even though they'll hear you.

    Please allow me to add my cringes to those of Jamie. *Every* pot in there was designed to be adjusted while the radio is connected to either a signal generator or an transmitter analyzer, or the differences you make by random twisting will make so *something*, nearly all of which will be bad things.
    There's a reason that those of us who align and repair two-way radio equipment (including CB) spend over $20,000 for equipment and years learning how to use it.
    I'm also a gunsmith, and while I could tell you how to take the sideplate off a Smith & Wesson K-frame revolver, it would be foolhardy to tell you what springs can be trimmed (and how), how to polish the rebound slide, and what surfaces (like on the sear) to *not* touch. I *will* tell you that the sideplate is removed with a soft piece of wood, *not* a screwdriver.

    There are lots of adjustments inside an engine, buy most people wouldn't go randomly fiddling with them. Even though a 12-volt radio can seldom be lethal, there's little to be gained by just twisting adjustments and seeing what happens, especially without the right diagnostic gear and training.

    The problem gets multiplied to $4-5,000 with a new digital police radio.....

    73
     
  9. RollingWave

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    Sure but for ten bucks I could care less if it gets wrecked

    Enlighten me this could be fun

    I don't got all the high tech stuff but I got a swr/peak envelope power meter

    Lets get tinkering if it gets wrecked Im out a whole ten bucks

    If succesful i got an old 102 whip and it would make an exceklent beater radio for my jeep
     
  10. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    cbtricks.com has all the tuneup specs you need. The key is that you have to understand the theory and have the necessary test gear.
    At the very least, please put a little sharpie mark or dot of nail polish at the point where each adjustment starts out, so that when you kill it, you can get it back close to where it started.
     
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  11. RollingWave

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    Nope the registration is down and it's one of those sites you either register or they dont let ya see squat
     
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