Merging and right of way

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by IluvCATS, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. A21CAV

    A21CAV Road Train Member

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    You seem to have a reading comprehension problem. For the second time:

    I was referring to the law . Not the hazard. Have someone explain that to you if you still don't get it.

    A yield sign, by definition, is a rolling stop sign. When you exit to a crossroad to turn right you will find a yield sign. Do you keep rolling regardless the cross traffic or do you stop? I'm old enough to remember when the yield sign was introduced in this country in the 1950s; I know what it means.

    If Scottie had to "take any measures" to accommodate the second driver's "merge" it was not a merge, it was failure to yield.
     
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  3. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    For both of these I touched the brakes to kick it out of cruise. First guy I did slow down a little bit but have been in situations where we both slowed down equally and it just made the problem worse. As I saw he was slowing dramatically and I couldn't get over I just maintained.

    Second driver I kicked it out of cruise then hovered over the brakes ready for anything. The driver seemed to catch a clue and hit his afterburner and extended and escaped (Top Gun reference) .
     
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  4. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Yes I was taught the same thing, a Yield sign is max speed 15 miles per hour approaching and passing the plane of the sign. In the past few years I have seen the onramp Merge signs in some states replaced with Yield signs. My opinion, that is a mistake. People are losing their merging skills. Not sure if is the fault of driver education in schools, (along with spelling and math, but that is a different story) or some foreign country is putting something in our water to dumb us down so they can take us over.

    Merge and Yield are two different things when it comes to onramps in my book. The more important problem is people not knowing how to use their mirrors and/or looking at their phone as they get close to the merge point.

    How many times have we seen mergers dive for the shoulder only to pass us violently by honking and flipping us off. All they had to do originally was put their little foot on the go pedal and push it down; they can certainly out pace a big truck in a short distance easily, especaially a 300 horsepower Ford pickup.
     
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  5. JReding

    JReding Road Train Member

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    Thanks for your concern, but my reading comprehension is fine. My concern is understanding the difference between yielding at a cross-street and yielding while entering from an onramp.
    Taken from a Q&A article from the Herald.net, 2/9/2014:

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    Granted, this is only one state, but I have always assumed this to be common knowledge. (BTW, I looked, and sure enough, on page 4-22 of the Washington state driver's guide, it states exactly what is highlighted here.)
     
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  6. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    People who fail to merge properly incite a primal instinct in me.

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  7. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Poor driver has forgotten the lesson of Reginald Denny. It is better to be judged by 12 than carried by Six.
     
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  8. DoneYourWay

    DoneYourWay Light Load Member

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    this is a 4-wheeler driving skill problem, they either don't understand their responsibility or they are afraid of the trailer

    i always let the commercial vehicles in as a gesture of professional courtesy, i slow down to allow them space and time and they always seem to merge properly

    not the 4-wheelers: if i see the 4-wheeler is struggling to merge i will initially slow down and let them in however they usually don't respond by merging properly, instead they will stop or slow down, if space allows i will change lanes but don't always have this luxury and it creates more risk
     
  9. longbedGTs

    longbedGTs Heavy Load Member

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    There was a topic here years back about this...and one of the responses was from a non trucker that frequented this site. Guess she was offended that cars were getting most of the blame, so she said that we truckers need to learn to merge and how we're always going too slow to merge and all kinds of nonsense. This was a glimpse into the oddity that is the 4wheeler brain...maybe this is how they all think. They see those big shiny round things on the side of trucks and think they're rocket boosters. Maybe NASA can help make rocket powered trucks the future and not self driving ones!
     
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  10. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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  11. fargonaz

    fargonaz Road Train Member

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    At least he's getting off the road.

    I don't think CA has more mentally ill people per capita, there's just more people so it's more noticeable. I know your last video probably wasn't in CA, I was referencing the car hauler and the ugly bald guy at the 5-80 split.
     
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