Manufacturer's "sleeper size" .... isn't.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Classy8, Jun 26, 2024.

  1. Classy8

    Classy8 Bobtail Member

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    You would think that when a manufacturer relays a measurement to describe sleeper size, they would be providing the distance from the back sleeper wall to the back of the driver seat - the measurement they declare for sleeper berth size regulation compliance. NOPE. The inches they relay to Joe Public in their brochures, model descriptions, and marketing material - is literally whatever measurement they feel like using - without giving any clear definition of what the measurement actually is - and they don't make it easy to find out either.

    Case in point, Western Star 5700xe's "82 inch" sleeper. When I measured the regulation distance from back of the front seat right where it sits at the trim line between the cab and sleeper body, it was 72" ... not 82". I looked online for a good hour trying find out what "82" represented and finally found a bodybuilder guide - turns out 82 inches is the interior height of the sleeper from floor to ceiling directly in front of the sleeping platform where the mattress goes. So does that mean the 48" sleeper is only 4 feet from floot to ceiling? Nope - in that case they are using the regulation spec measurement. But you wouldn't really know because they don't define what the measurement actually is - other than a marketing gimmick.

    I can't think of any other industry where a declared measurement has nothing to do with what the public accepts as the traditional standard. i.e. advertising a tv as 200 inches, but then finding out its not the screen size - in fact the screen size is buried inside the spec sheet on the last page of the user manual that's inside the sealed box, nor is the screen size even shown on the box - the tv manufacturer decided that 200" is how far away you can sit and comfortably watch the screen - so its advertised as a 200" inch tv... righttttt... but that's exactly what's going on with semi-truck sleeper sizes. How about some truth in advertising?
     
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  3. LOTSO

    LOTSO Heavy Load Member

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    :scratch:...I always thought T.V.'s were measured at an angle from corner to corner...:dontknow:
     
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  4. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    OK sounds like you are not happy with your truck.
    OK then what?
    Nope, they established it to be from the back of the CAB to the back of the Sleeper, been that way since 1953.
    Yep have a few of them.
    That's not how I measure it, my measurement comes out to 81 inches.
    Really, I found it in the spec sheet for the truck. AND no it is not the height of the sleeper internally.
    Nope it is 48 inches from the back of the cab to the back of the sleeper.
    Really? so there is 24 inches in the sleeper from the top of the matress to the ceiling of the sleeper?
    200 inch tv?

    OK I have a business aquitance who has a 200 inch tv, I looked up the specs and it seems that it is only 174 inches wide, wth?? that's 26 inches that is missing.
    Yeah how about that truth?
     
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  5. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    Don’t know about western star, but paccar measures from the back of the seats with the seats slid up now, they started with KW on the aero cab and started doing the same with Pete a few years ago
     
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  6. Cdemars316

    Cdemars316 Medium Load Member

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    Yep that's why a 48" flattop is now listed as a 53" same sleeper it's always been but they list it as a 53
     
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