Lumper????

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Whiplash2008, Apr 1, 2009.

  1. Whiplash2008

    Whiplash2008 Bobtail Member

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    I am new to this site, & the trucking industry. I have searched the FAQ and Trucker Lingo links without finding an answer, so please forgive a stupid question.

    I have figured out from lurking & reading various posts here that a "LUMPER" gets paid (apparently by the driver) to unload a trailer. I can't help wondering what is the reason/need for a lumper?? Are they employees of the receiver? What is the exact definition/description of a lumper, and why on earth do you (the driver) or the company have to pay out of pocket for them?!?!?!

    Is this necessary because a drop site does not have a dock or a shipping/recieving dept?? Aren't you delivering a load that either the reciever needs/asked for, or that somebody paid to send to them? Don't they want the load enough that unloading it from the truck is a given?

    I'm mystified by the reasoning behind this (as are, judging from my reading apparently, many OTR drivers).

    Also in a somewhat related vein, I find I am shocked & amazed to discover that many OTR drivers are often waiting HOURS, even DAYS to be unloaded!!!

    Again I have to ask,.. without sarcasm mind you, why is that??? It doesn't seem to me to make ANY sense whatsoever for anyone involved, shipper, receiver, driver, nobody!

    I was hoping someone here wouldn't mind a dumb "NOOB" question & clear these up for me?

    TIA, (thanks in advance)

    Whiplash
     
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  3. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    There are many reasons docks use lumpers . If a driver or employee gets hurt unloading on the dock he files a claim against the receiver . Guess who a lumper files a claim against ? Many warehouses are union . A nonunion driver isn't allowed to unload . Often union members lump loads on their day off .
    Waiting is not a problem if you work for a carrier that pays detention pay . Running dedicated loads eliminates waiting for loads . Some carriers simply exploit drivers that don't know any better . As long as drivers tolerate it or there are wannabes willing to replace drivers that quit because they wouldn't tolerate it the abuse will go on .
     
  4. Whiplash2008

    Whiplash2008 Bobtail Member

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    RickG,

    Thanks for the response. It's funny, Before I posted this question I did a forum search using "lumper". I got a five page search result and after skimming thru the first few didn't see anything answering my ?.

    But I noticed after reading your post that there were several "Similar Thread" links at the bottom of this page, all with "lumper" in the title.

    Don't know why they didn't come up on my initial search.

    Whiplash
     
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  5. Big Don

    Big Don "Old Fart"

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    To go into it a bit deeper.

    From the shipping/receiving company perspective-
    Lumpers generally work for a company that does lumping. The receiver contracts out to the lumping company to unload the trucks, and often to break down and re-pallet the load, in accordance with the needs of the receiver.

    In addition to the workers comp issue that Rick mentioned, this means that the receiver does not have to pay benefits to lumpers. Nor do they have to do the bookkeeping involved with all the withholding of taxes, etc. Also, it means that the lumping company, rather than the receive, is liable for the federally mandated checking to make sure that the worker is in fact legal to work in this country. Yeah, I know, that is a joke, but it is still a consideration. The company saves a great deal of money on their payroll, by doing this.

    From the trucking company perspective-
    The trucking company does not want their drivers loading and unloading, for the most part. They want their guys to take advantage of the dock time, getting rest, so they are ready to go when empty. (Well, it SOUNDS good, anyhow. . .) Also, they don't want their drivers getting hurt while doing the physical work of loading/unloading.

    It all goes back to the allmighty dollar.
     
  6. skibum_63

    skibum_63 Road Train Member

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    lumpers = LEGALIZED ROBBERY
     
  7. Miles_Of_Truckin

    Miles_Of_Truckin Light Load Member

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    Amen!!!:biggrin_2554:
     
  8. kingsson

    kingsson Heavy Load Member

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    A lumper is a person (usually a guy, although I have seen a few women doing it) contracted with the receiving company to legally fleece you for everything you own to unload product that the receiver wants off your truck. After all, he has family back in Mexico or wherever to support so they, too, can make that swim across the river. Lumpers also generally do not speak English, or at least pretend they don't when you question their fee.
    Our company's policy on lumpers is that the boss would rather pay a lumper than a back claim.
     
  9. psanderson

    psanderson Road Train Member

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    It could also be called driver laziness, no exercise, and can't figure out why the belly balloons causing hypertension
     
  10. Lilbit

    Lilbit Road Train Member

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    There are a lot of places that do not allow the driver to unload their truck. I've been to plenty of those.
     
  11. kingsson

    kingsson Heavy Load Member

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    Not to mention those that say they are happy to allow you to unload your own truck, provided you have this or that license, issued by THEIR facility... etc. In other words, forcing you to be at the mercy of the lumper service!
     
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