lumper fees...why???

Lumper?

What's that?

 

It's not dumb. Follow the money. Ultimately it is the shipper who pays for the unload. It's built into the rate one way or another. The carrier may pay the lumper directly, but that is charged back to the shipper; if you're a driver and you pay a lumper directly, you get it back from your company, or you should, and your company goes back to the shipper for it.

However . . . with big accounts, a carrier may accomodate a shipper by covering unload fees. There may also be unload fee agreements between shippers and consignees. Many products are shipped with unload fees built into the price the consignee pays the shipper. Click on the link.

Many shippers and consignees use lumpers because the lumpers aren't employees, so there are no wages or employment taxes, etc. to pay. No one expects lumpers to work for nothing, so the lumpers charge for their labor.

Well, actually, it's consumers who pay for the unload.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FOB_(shipping)

 

Because a very long time ago, some money hungry, ignorant salesmen started telling the buyers that the shipper would take care of the load all the way. Including unloading it. Certainly not caring one whit as to how much trouble and confusion it can cost somebody else. . .

 

As I'm reading this I'm watching a guy unload 2-40k coils off my truck........I didn't pay him a dime


Hey blackw900 next time the UPS guy shows up at your house force him to pay you $10 to place the package you ordered on your porch. Then you will not only know what a lumper is, but just how stupid the idea is. And when he's done laughing at you and drives away with your package you'll see the reaction most carriers should take when asked to pay for a lumper.

 

what i always found to be a bunch of BS, is that when i used to have to lump freight, the companies back then paid $1.00 per one thousand pounds, so for a 40,000 load, i would get $40....

but yet, the same companies mind you, would pay a lumper, heck this one lumper i dealt with, $150.00...??WTF...????

my supervisor told me, "you the driver provide a service to unload for the customer, as such we pay you that price as an extra bonus"....

i almost told him what he can do with that bonus...

from that day on, i'd make up a false lumper sheet, and get the full amount a lumper would.....

now that i am older, the lumpers can charge a gazillion dollars, as long as the company pays them.....i'll take my naps instead.

 

Spot on! $40 didn't cut it--freakin' slave labor! I always let lumpers do it. Two of them could do it faster than one of me, and I didn't care what they charged. I wasn't paying it. "Extra bonus." Yeah, right.

That was for truckload. On multi-drops we had to tailgate--there were no lumpers at some of our customers, which were often retail stores. We'd do seven or eight drops in three or four states; some stops were just one or two pallets. Wasn't so bad to heft freight that way. And we got paid for the drops and each unload. One time I had two drops at the same DC--one for grocery (three pallets) and one around back for pharmacy (six boxes of cough medicine on one pallet). Pay was $40 for each drop plus $75 for the unload. Sweet.

 

I ran into the same thing as Rerun when I was doing T/L refer. But the company made it clear to us that they did NOT want us handling the freight unless it was absolutely necessary. In fact, we didn't even deal with the lumpers. It was all handled by the office.

But this was for our "regular" customers. Even there, we would get the occasional load that "just worked out right" for the company as far as where we were and where we were going. Then it was sort of a "deal with it" scenario. And that company was forced dispatch. You didn't refuse a load more than once. . .

 

To be honest the carrier doesn't make any real money by delivering the shipment because either the driver unloads the truck which the carrier will pay them for and also lose money and time, or the carrier pays the lumper service which of course the carrier still loses money. That's why a certain company finally figured it out that they're losing money and wasting time delivering shipments of that kind! !! Hopefully every company will realize that and the mofos who ordered the shipment will have their own workers unload their product.