I just bought a new truck, the truck has brand new tires (supposedly balanced by TA) and brand new shocks (i had them put both on). I feel a vibration in the steering wheel...like a slight shaking back and forth, and the steering wheel feels a bit sloopy or free play. I took it to one of the cheaper less reputable shops in town and they told me the "front spring rubber bushings are bad" and need to be replaced. I'm not a mechanic, but luckily my brother is a ex diesel tech of 20 years. He said the shops diagnosis sounds odds to him, the repair will cost at least $1200. I am starting to wonder if i just wasted $100-$200 in just the diagnosis and the actual repair would be a even greater loss that would not correct the problem. What are you thoughts?... I am quickly running out of money in repair costs on this truck and the steering was one of the last major components i needed to correct before i FINALLY hit the road.
loose steering and vibration in steering wheel.
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by TowHaul, Nov 5, 2017.
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I agree with your brother. Your spring bushings may need service but they are not likely causing your steering shimmy. Get the truck into a reputable alignment shop and have a thorough front end inspection completed. Your issue will likely come down to a wheel runout or balance issue or a worn front end component.
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with it being brand new steer tires and new shocks... what would you suggest i look at? My brother is going to go with me over to inspect the truck today (still sitting at parking lot at repair shop). TA put the tires on.... if improperly balanced will they re-balance for free? Is runout caused by used tires that became deformed? which front end components should i have him examine?
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For the loose steering problem, it can be easy to spot the problem if you open the hood, have it running and just turn the steering wheel shaft by hand back and forth a bit. Keep a close eye on your Pittman arm and drag link, watch every single ball joint for excess play. Everything should be pretty tight. Also grab your steers and try to wiggle them back and forth as if you are trying to turn them left and right. Get someone to help you so you can watch both sides
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Have you driven the truck since the tires were replaced? Is the shimmy exactly the same, worse or better?
Were the tires balanced on or off the vehicle? I see a lot of mounting issues where the wheels mount to the hub with uni-mount. Look for gaps between the wheels and hubs at the stand offs that could cause an out of round condition. Also sometimes debris can get between the drum and hub or wheel and drum causing issues with runout. You say the steering seems sloppy, where is the slop coming from? A good inspection should find and locate these issues. -
Parts simply don't go bad instantly once tires are replaced. If you feel the sloppy steering now that it has new tires then therefore the tires are to blame. It is common to have new steers and feel a loose or sloppy feel with new and tall treads on some tires. Your toe set is probably not correct. The shake in the steering wheel is classic steer tires out of round or out of balance. Even if they balanced them, they probably aren't running round and bouncing which could be causing both of your issues. Since you have new steers, it is always a good idea to have the toe set. We always recommend spinning up the tires to make sure they running true and round. 95% of all tire shakes I come across are due to not running round and basically bouncing down the road. That is why balancing over and over never seem to cure the problem. Either the tire is not square to the rim, or the wheel is not perfectly centered on the hub.
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no it had slop steering when i bought the truck. i have almost no experience driving this new truck. I replaced the steers and shocks as i thought it would fix the slop steering and vibration in the steering wheel. I saw no difference (maybe alittle improvment) since i bought new steers and shocks.
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Possibly toe is set incorrectly, maybe a bit toed out or neutral. Should be toe in 1/16”. Can cause a vibration.
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Ok, sorry. Best thing to do is see if you have mechanical slop or combination of mechanical and tire flex. With it just sitting and engine off, turn the steering wheel back and forth in the sloppy range before you feel resistance. If you have excessive play in the wheel, like more than a couple of inches, now you need to see where you are losing it at. Could be a sloppy steering column, steering shaft, loose steering gear or draglink-tie rod ends. You generally need two people, one to wiggle and one to watch. If all is tight and this is more of a handling issues, then yes, I highly recommend an alignment.
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