long nose backing mechanics?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by atlasshruggery, Jun 4, 2011.

  1. atlasshruggery

    atlasshruggery Light Load Member

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    I have been driving for about 7 months, and I just recently switched companies. The company I am currently with gave me a long nose freightliner classic. Now I know that the wheelbase is much longer, so the turning radius is smaller, but it seems as if when I am backing up the trailer reacts differently with the long nose truck as opposed to the cascadia I had. Is this correct, or is it all in my head? Also do any of you have any tips for backing a long nose truck if there is a difference?
     
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  3. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    First off, the turning radius is bigger... 40-acre size for the Classic XL.

    As for backing... inputs at the steering wheel will be amplified by the longer wheelbase, so make smaller adjustments as you back.
     
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  4. atlasshruggery

    atlasshruggery Light Load Member

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    lol I dont know why I put smaller. And thank you for the tip on making smaller adjustments, I appreciate it, was having some trouble, making alot of pullups on tight spots, hopefully I get used to the truck soon.
     
  5. groundpounder

    groundpounder Road Train Member

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    I owned a Classic XL once, it turned like a battle ship...

    1) take your time its not a race to get into a dock or parking spot
    2) pull up as many times as it takes to get safely backed in
    3) get a spotter if you need one, there is no shame in asking for help

    enjoy the ride those big long bastids do ride good !! :biggrin_2559:
     
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  6. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Your fifth wheel setting is probably different as well. With a fifth whell further forward a trailer will seem to take longer to change attitude. Further back will be twitchy. Or seems like that to me. A lot of it is adjusting to the way a truck pushes the trailer. Remember no one cares where the truck ends up just where the trailers is.




    As GP said it is not a race. Concentrate on the mechanics of your task, speed will come later with experience.
     
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  7. seabring

    seabring Road Train Member

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    funny thing is i drive a kenworth w900 and recently while it was in the shop the company asked if i could move a few trailers with a different tractor, it was a t2000, man i couldnt get that thing to back up for the life of me, was begging for my w900 by the end of the day!!! its what your used to so give it a bit of time and you will have it sorted out , enjoy the ride , long hoods rock!!
     
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  8. canuck in da truck

    canuck in da truck Road Train Member

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    its embarresing switching trucks sometimes--my classic was in shop--and i took w-9
    but neither one was over 244 inches----but totally different backing characteristics---with the w-9 it seemed it took forever to get the trailer cutting over--but when it did--poof it was gone---the classic-to me seemed to turn a lot quicker
    but i guess it is what you are used to
     
  9. atlasshruggery

    atlasshruggery Light Load Member

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    I do enjoy driving the truck, it rides really nice, and long nose trucks just look cooler imo. I guess its just a matter of getting used to how the trailer reacts with this truck, hopefully it wont take long.
     
  10. atlasshruggery

    atlasshruggery Light Load Member

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    I thought it was just me, but its nice to see other people had a bit of trouble when switching trucks.
     
  11. Hanzerik

    Hanzerik Light Load Member

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    Last week I started off driving a Kenworth in the yard doing four hours of off-set and 90 degree backing (School), then they swapped trucks so an very inexperienced driver could take that truck out for a road drive. I ended up driving a FreightLiner for the other four hours which backed a lot differently. It seemed that the Kenworth backed so much easier and I was doing really good with only having minimal pull-ups if at all. But the FreightLiner was totally different and I was getting really pissed at myself, oh man was I getting pissed. But eventually I got better with that truck.

    I'm new to the "commercial" side of trucking, but did have four years experience driving trucks in the Military, but the trucks we used in the Military were all automatic transmissions and day cabs, which were pretty easy to move around.
     
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