I dont know where you are getting your info from but silicate batteries are literally designed for cold weather areas, lithium is the exact opposite the only draw to lithium is weight savings and size, everything else about them is worse, from the process of making them to the process of disposing them
LiFePo4 battery pack instead of Lead Acid
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You need a special type of alternator that can handle the fact that the internal BMS on any lithium battery may abruptly cut off charging, which will fry the alternator when they do this. Your alternator needs somewhere for that power to go in the time it takes to remove the load.
Also need a starting module, Maxwell makes one for trucks. Lithium battery can't handle the cranking amps for starting so the starting module charges slowly off them but can crank the engine, takes a few minutes to recharge it between crank attempts (will only turn engine over for around 5 seconds max).
I have mine set up like this.
Maxwell starting module connected to starter.
I have a deep cycle bank which is hooked up to the alternator (upgraded to 400amps in my situation) and also hooked up to trickle charge the starting module.
I have a CTEK smartpass 120 duo set up connected to the alternator and lead acid battery bank.
The CTEK will charge the lithium bank at 140amps after the lead acid bank is charged.
If truck is off and lead acid bank gets low, it will feed power from the lithium bank back to the starter bank if they have enough power.
This isolates your Lithium bank from your alternator and also from your starter.
You could pay several thousand for a special type of alternator that essentially uses a buffer and can directly charge a lithium battery, but they are very expensive and hard to find, spend less with the above system.
I can park for days and play games on my computer and never start my truck, these Lithium batteries will last longer than I'm willing to be in this profession so... -
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It's unlikely such a niche would see factory production, but boutique or self made batteries should be easy enough. According to a quick google search the LiFePo4 chemistry should be fine to 3 or 5C which would be 500A for a single 100AH pack. Since you're unlikely to need only 100AH you should be fine with a separate contactor switched lead from a 600AH pack. Made out of the smaller 100AH prismatic packs it would be a pretty large, but doable 4S6P pack, or multiple smaller packs in parallel. Doing the math on a 600AH pack means almost 8KWh so not insubstantial.
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