Lease roads. Why? Why? Why???!!!

Discussion in 'Oilfield Trucking Forum' started by Chibob, Nov 22, 2013.

  1. Chibob

    Chibob Medium Load Member

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    Why do lease roads run the gamut from smooth as a county maintained road to something that looks like a mine field from WWII?

    Most of the lease roads I drive on are passable. A few pot holes but basically smooth. But there are a few that are guaranteed to break something or leave you waiting for another truck to be towed out of a mud hole. There is one that has a spot we call "the pond". If you have no off road experience and it's your first time on that road you will need a tow. Traffic backs up and the tow truck or winch truck or whoever has a chain just can't get through.

    Who is responsible for the maintenance "or lack of" on these lease roads? Obviously nothing can be done or somebody would have done it by now. Who is supposed to pay for the maintenance?
     
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  3. FLATBED

    FLATBED Road Train Member

    Whoever built the road ( oil / gas outfit ) is likely responsible for the upkeep of it , and supposedly after the lease is up its to be returned to the natural conditions prior to the road being built .
     
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  4. Big Duker

    Big Duker "Don Cheto"

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    Lot of it depends on who owns the land. Most I drove on were nice for a mile or more. Then they would turn to ducus real quick. Lot of these places out in Rankin, Big Lake , and even down your way are huge tracts owned by some family who never goes there. I had one in Rankin that we drove over 20 miles to site. Reminded me of Afghanistan. I think if someone lives on them they are more likely to get maintained.
     
  5. rockyroad74

    rockyroad74 Heavy Load Member

    Sounds like the roads to my house. It takes 10 minutes to drive the last 2 miles or so(depends on how muddy), but I like the fact there are no yuppies moving in. All the neigbbors out here are the type that know how to get things done. Except build a road, I guess. Oh well, that's what the 4 wheel drive is for.
     
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  6. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    oil company is responsible for maintaining lease roads
     
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  7. Chibob

    Chibob Medium Load Member

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    If the oil company is responsible then why do they maintain some roads but not others? Same oil company on most of the lease roads I drive on. Some are well maintained but a few have not seen a motor grader in years.

    I thought the people who owned the land were responsible and the really old leases don't pay enough to make maintaining the road feasible.
     
  8. Big Duker

    Big Duker "Don Cheto"

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    The county is responsible for as far as they go. Most leases are set up where oil company takes care of roads. I have friends that have had wells for yrs. Anytime they have a problem they get on phone and within a week or so road fixed. Same with cows . If they have spill that causes death or problems with animals they will send then a check. Hard to keep them up on newer plays. With all the traffic from drillers, cementers , fracers, loggers, caterers, and all the rest. One well is finished and bam they are onto another on the same road.
     
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  9. Chibob

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    Next time I go on one of the two really bad lease roads I am going to take pictures and post them here. The worst one has pot hole after pot hole and well there are no words to describe the condition of this road. It is obvious nobody has done any work on this road for years. And I mean YEARS! It literally looks like a B52 flew by and just dropped bombs all along the road.
     
  10. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    also depends on how the lease was written up, how many times that lease has been sold, changed hands....

    as an example, Anadarko still holds the lease rights to the land, and can drill new wells. The older wells have been sold to another operating company, and the operating company is not responsible for the upkeep of the roads, anadarko is, but they have no incentive to maintain the roads. So most of the road base from 20 years ago has been ground down, and the fine bentonite powder has become the top surface of the road.... very slick when wet.
     
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  11. Chibob

    Chibob Medium Load Member

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    That's as good an explanation as I've heard so far.
     
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