Hi guys,
I am toying around with buying an old cabover and getting my foot in the door as an owner operator on a shoe string.
I am having some trouble finding what these trucks weigh, to figure out the tare with trailer combinations.
Do cabovers have any trouble getting to 80,000lbs loaded with out going over weight on the steer axle?
Thanks guys,
Zach
Kenworth K100 weight?
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by ZachE, Aug 22, 2010.
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You can always slide the 5th wheel back to take weight off the steer.
It's all dependent on the wheel base, the engine make and the fuel tank placement. -
I have a cab over & I can usually load more than most cause my light weight is lighter. if you have a 12,000 front & 20,000 each rear, you can load as any other with same specs.
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Hi Zach: I ran a Pete cabover (1984 vintage, as i remember) and always had to be careful on front axle weight. Obviously, you already know that, so redundant here.
If you do take the plunge, best wishes to you! It is not an easy business to be in. I applaude you on starting small with a "cheaper" truck. See some guys starting with a new truck and new truck payments. I dont believe they have any room for errors.
I dont mean to make this sound like complete doom and gloom, because it is not my intent. Just being honest. There is nothing else i would rather be doing. I enjoy trucking, for the most part. Even the "bad" days have some reward and certainly always educational.
Getting alittle long winded here, but... I hope you can work on your own truck and plan to do so. It will save you huge amounts of money. Many times break downs on the road can be cured, or at least "cobbed" on the side of the road. Enough for now...david
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Mainly what I'm running into is the old COE's have a lower cost to buy, but inefficient engines.
I've got some experience with old naturally aspirated cummins 855's (boat mechanic... that business has tanked) which have great parts prices, and pretty easy to work on... The kit to inframe one is less than 900 bucks. (Though the age old truth, is to buy something that doesn't need work or has already been rebuilt...)
I'm wanting to be able to slide the trailer forward and take advantage of less wind drag. 30 inches I've read is the magic number for things to start getting better mileage. Which I guess means either a long sleeper, or a short wheel base.
Heavy Hauler, what kind of cabover are you running? What kind of mileage do you get loaded?
David, do you recall what mileage that old Pete got? Was it one of those 372's? I've seen articles about them claiming they got better than 10 mpg.
Thanks again guys,
Zach -
depends how old you want to go---should be able to find some fliners with series 60
the problem is most of them have been worn right out and scrapped
are you stuck on a cabover?--lots of older convs for sale--
but an old cabover running down the road does looksuper cool -
Your taxing the ole memory bank Zachbiggrin_25521
, but i believe it was a 362 model? It was a number of years ago...
Much younger and stupid(versus old and stupid now). It was a company truck and mileage didnt concern me....i dont recall any fantastic or poor mpg with it....It was a 400 Cummins with a 13 speed as i remember... -
Thanks guys...
I'm not dead set on a cabover, just heard that they are more aerodynamic than a conventional... and seem to be cheaper, as I guess no one wants to run them.
I'm figuring I can grab a newer cabover with lower miles than I can a conventional for the same initial purchase price.
Only thing I'm finding in the ad's, is that a lot of times they say the odometer "shows" a figure that is hard to believe... truck would have driven 10k miles a year. Guessing they have rolled, once, or twice on the real ragged looking ones!
Zach -
i have heard the old adage that coe were more aerodynamic---but still i finit hard to believe--mind you the only ones i drove were clapped out---but you sure didnt want to head into the wind with them
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The difference between aero of a COE and a conventional (especially if you're comparing an 80s K100 against a 90s T6 for example) is not cut and dry. Europeans drive cab overs for length not aero reasons, but because they have to drive COEs they have made a number of improvements in aero for them. The old cab overs in the US were never designed to be efficient like modern aero trucks have been.
I would look to some of the other threads here and keep in an eye out for trucks that are inexpensive to get into, are reliable, and easy to repair and maintain (a T600 with a Series 60 probably wouldn't be a bad starting point)
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