Hi there. I've been a company driver for 15 years. Thought I'd give it a go on my own. I have my own authority and bought a truck off a friend. Putting some money in it and thought I'd go under JB's power only for a bit to make sure my tractor is mechanically sound for a month or so.
They told me 1.77 per mile and .65 empty . Now, they trying to push 70% of the bill instead. Already a bait and switch. Does anyone have advice on which route to take?
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Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by foot loose, Jul 28, 2011.
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I'd take the route out the gate, and wouldn't look back !!Wargames and American-Trucker Thank this. -
Thanks. Sometimes I wish I done that years ago.
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IMHO, never run a mileage lease, always run a percentage lease. There are many ways to make more revenue on a percentage lease but more miles is the only way on a mileage lease.
This is not a bait and switch. They pay percentage and those who have researched them know this. They put the revenue in CPM because they know a smart owner/operator knows his cost of operation in CPM. In addition, it allows you to compare their numbers to other leases.
I haven't run on their lease so you will have to research this and make your own decision. Their CPM revenue is higher than many but still not great. -
I don't know really that much but I can tell you what happen with me while I was in the Navy. We had a special bulldozer that had to be moved from MD to UT. An O/O came in to load it and I was there because I was responsible for the dozer. I got to talking with the driver and I liked his truck. I made the comment that he's making a killing hauling this dozer because I had the contract in hand. He said not really and I then said you make this kind of money all the time? He looked at me funny and I then told him what the contract amount was. It was just over $10,000. He went ballistic. His broker told him it was just over $1,000. Mind you this was back in the late 80's.
I then asked me for a copy. I told him that I was bound by law not to give any contractual information to anyone outside of our command. He needed this for proof and I just couldn't help. He understood and we went on our ways. I never did find out what had happen with his broker but things were weird that day. Including a copy of that #### contract ending up on the drivers seat. Go figure.
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Gashauler your story bring up a good question can brokers lose their license or whatever qualifications they need if they are caught lying about their contracts to drivers? For drivers being paid by the mile obviously its not a concern of the load value but in cases like this there should be very serious repercussions of lying to the driver if they are paid percentage.
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To the best of my knowledge their is no limit to what the broker can take. You enter into a contract with him to haul the load for a certain amount. So no there is nothing you can do.
However if you are hauling $10,000 loads for $1,000, the responsibility is on you. If you haven't researched and prepared yourself any better than that, I have no sympathy for you.
This may seem cold but realize if you are hauling loads cheap, you are part of the problem not part of the solution.
Many brokers can, will and always have done business like this. Supply and demand is the name of the game. The broker may well be unethical to do this but if he couldn't find anybody to haul it for that, he wouldn't be doing it.
This is no different than the U.S. and Mexico's drug problem. As long as the demand exists, the supply will be available. -
If you enter into a percentage agreement the broker MUST provide you with a copy of the original contract upon request.
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I believe this is correct. I doubt it is the way to win friends and influence people. In other words, how many more of his loads do you think you will load?
If you know what the load should pay and you receive fair pay then there should be no real issues. If you get your rate then I'm missing what the issue is. I haven't seen many brokers advertising the rate they charge.
EDIT: I see what you are saying. Yes if you enter into a percentage agreement but that won't be the case with broker loads. -
ok. got a little off track but I guess i knew the answer all along. I got to figure out what it cost to run this truck and go from there. I appreciate your feedback.
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