Having electrical issues with my jake brakes.
Anybody have a wiring diagram for the jake brakes on a CAT 3406B mechanical?
I believe I have the model 346 "Super Jake" not sure if it matters.
Thanks
Jake wiring mechanical CAT
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by zx150, May 21, 2016.
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What's the problem.?
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It's been rewired several times in the past by various mechanics and owners. I was trying to clean up the wiring in the dash(open wires shorting to the panel in various other circuits) and I unplugged something, somewhere. The truck also has been converted from a PEEC engine to a mechanical CAT so the OE diagrams that involve the ECM aren't helping much.
It's a 1994 KW W900 -
Somebody on here has the diagram. This place has great people willing too lend a hand.
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@wore out would be the one to figure this out. He's old school on those engines.
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I'll shoot him a PM, thanks.
BTW I did find one series on diagrams on the Jacobs website but they only apply to the OEM setup thru the ECM
http://www.jacobsvehiclesystems.com/files/file/Troubleshooting-Guide.pdfLast edited: May 21, 2016
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Here is a very crude drawing of the wiring for the jake. Bottom half shoes the wiring for the jake switch and the disconnected wire. I did take and connect the mystery wire to the bottom tab on the clutch switch and that brought the jake back to life BUT if I leave the switch on the jake will still fire at idle but not under load. What keeps the jake off at idle?
What do you guys think?Attached Files:
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They are fairly simple once you know the basics, but chasing out past work can be a bit of a nightmare depending on how it was done.
The basics are as follows:
You have three places that interupt the circuit:
- Clutch switch - so that when the clutch is depressed the jakes will not come on
- Throttle switch - so that when any pressure is put on the throttle the jakes are disengaged
- Dash switch - which will have a mode for 1 stage (3 cylinders), or 2 stage (6 cylinders)
I am not sure on if the clutch switch will be inside or outside of your truck, but I suspect it is on the inside. You should see a stiff wire that contacts the clutch pedal, or a little button switch that the clutch pedal linkage barely touches when the clutch pedal is not depressed at all.
Your should see a wire loom that travels along the right side of the engine, below the valve covers. This will have a spade connector going to each jake body.
So this means that there are four areas that you can test with a test light to see if you have power:
- Spade connectors at jakes
- Dash switches (power to on/off switch, and power from on/off switch to stage switch)
- Throttle switch
- Clutch switch
If you do not have power at any of these places then the fuse panel will be the place to start.
I do not know the order that these separate components are in line (whether or not the power goes from the source to the throttle, clutch, dash, are any variation of these), but at least this may help you to determine where the problem is.snowman_w900, SAR and zx150 Thank this. -
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