jake brakes; when to use them, when not to

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by o.m.d., Sep 21, 2010.

  1. o.m.d.

    o.m.d. Heavy Load Member

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    the thread about clutchless shifting seems to have shifted to jake brakes. so i wanted to start a new topic about them. when do you use them? do you leave them on the whole time you're driving? i heard a term i never heard before "jake shifting". hopefully someone can fill me in on that. since i drive b trucks jake brakes arent something i come into contact with very frequently. i've only driven 2 trucks with them.
     
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  3. luvmyhubby

    luvmyhubby Road Train Member

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    DONT use em going past my house at 3am....LOL but to be serious I have heard A LOT of drivers say not to become dependant/used having the jake brake on/working all the time as it can fail and you really should know how to say go down a grade without it...etc. Lots of guys complain when drivers haul ### into the truck stops in the wee hours of the morning and have their jake on....I guess its commons sense and knowing your current driving conditions; from all that I have read and heard over the years.
     
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  4. JustSonny

    JustSonny Big Dummy

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    I'm a new driver but the only use I've found for the jake so far is going down long inclines (declines?). Basically whenever the jake will control the speed downhill so I don't have to use the foot brake as much. I'm in a fog about the value of jakes in a parking lot or any level/semi-level surface.
     
  5. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    A Jake brake is an engine brake to slow the truck down on downgrades. The intent is to keep from using the foot brake and getting the brakes hot. Properly used and in the correct gear, you can desend a 6 % downgrade without touching the foot brake. Drivers that use a Jake on level ground are just trying to show off.
     
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  6. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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    Not always. I use the engine brake to slow the truck down to a crawl before using the service brakes. Of course, this truck has a super quiet muffler on it and the engine brake is barely audible... no "Blat Blat Blat" like you'd get from a straight pipe.

    I leave it on all the time.
     
  7. 48Packard

    48Packard Ol' Two-stop Shag!

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    Just remember:

    The loudness and/or intrusiveness of a jake brake is directly proportional to the number of drivers sleeping in the given truck stop parking area at the same time.
     
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  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    When I start my day I make sure the Jake is off. Once I get up on the freeway or highway speeds, I usually reach over and flip it on. Typically though if I'm going through a small town on a 2 way road for example, I will turn it off (most of the time there is a sign informing truckers to turn it off) or any time where my speed will be below 40-35 miles per hour like in a traffic jam. It's nice to have on when approaching a gnarly curved freeway exit for additional slow down power. The engine retarder can also wreck havoc on your fuel economy.

    When not to use:
    Rain
    Snow
    Bobtailing
    Small Hick Towns
    Suburbia
    Truck Stops
    Below 35 MPH
     
  9. end of the road

    end of the road Heavy Load Member

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    Using a Jake Brake in these situations will give the rest of the world the illusion that you are cool and have a large #####.
     
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    thelastamericanhippy Road Train Member

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  11. end of the road

    end of the road Heavy Load Member

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    Why not use the jake in the rain? I heard it was only when slippery. While rain can cause slicker roads I don't think it would be enough to jack-knife you.
     
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