is biofuel worth the fuel discount?

Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by heavyhaulerss, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    i only fuel at pilots blue green fuel doesnt matter
    this is all old wives tales bs
    the op has a smaller micron filter or algae or sumthin that isnt where he fuels
    i havnt changed a fuel filter except when doing a normal service on this 2012 Detroit


    everything else is just sit at the counter jawboning
     
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  3. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    That is correct.
     
  4. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    The "yellow" or gold colored fuel is typically the bio-mass fuel, that comes from animal fats, etc. The green fuel is soy-based, and is the better alternative if you are going to run bio fuels, I have ran it for years with no problems. There is NO bio fuel derived from corn for diesel fuel, you are thinking of ethanol, which is in gasoline.
     
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  5. mattbnr

    mattbnr Road Train Member

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    Thank you for correcting me.
     
  6. dude6710

    dude6710 Road Train Member

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    So if it's "diesel bio ultra LS 5%" what does that mean? Been running it for a few years without issues. I seem to get better mpg elsewhere though.
     
  7. mattbnr

    mattbnr Road Train Member

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    Ultra low sulfur 5% biodiesel
    Blend. It's basically 95% diesel #2
     
  8. dude6710

    dude6710 Road Train Member

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    Should I be running 2 stroke oil in my fuel with this in a c12? I pay 20-35 cents less a gallon than the cash price so an additive wouldn't make it a wash.
     
  9. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    There are two blenders I know of nearby, the new process uses pressure and heat, and has solved most of the issues of cold blending plugging the works.

    I fuel mostly in IL, anywhere from b-2 to b-20 which is the maximum allowed by most OEMs and have no problem, didn't with an early ISX(that one actually ran much better with it because of less foaming, I think,) and in older and newer N-14s, and Series 60s , on up to the DD15. No real problem in any, back when ULSD became the norm, I had some trouble with sludge coming loose in an older truck's tanks, and once picking up a bad shot of fuel at a TA with the ISX that had a biological contamination problem. There are actually microbes that grow in gasoline, which was what a mechanic suggested rinsing the tanks on that truck with.

    Plugging that often, I'd suspect microbials, is the fuel in the housing dark or cloudy black? Warm weather cured the microbes, but the fuel system was already damaged by then.
     
  10. biofumes

    biofumes Light Load Member

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    Biodiesel has better lubricating properties and much higher cetane raitings(what actually counts in diesel fuel additive) today's low sulfur diesel fuels. Biodiesel addition reduces fuel system wear, and in low levels in high pressure systems increases the life of the fuel injection equipment that relies on the fuel for its lubrication. Depending on the engine, this might include high pressure injection pumps, pump injectors (also called unit injectors) and fuel injectors.

    Bio-diesel acts as a solvent, completely cleaning out your fuel tank, this is what causes your filter to plug up quickly. After about 3 or 4 uses(depending on your tank size) and your tank has been cleaned out fully, you will be back to normal.

    The other pro to using the bio fuel is its energy point. The more you use, the more likely you are to keep your engine running cooler. B50 is a good blend.
    With the introduction to cold filtering, you shouldn't run into any gelling issues in the winter anymore. B20 is a good winter blend.

    For your fuel filters, ensure your filters are using synthetic filters and not the paper filters. The minute amount of water in biodiesel can rot and deteriorate the paper, causing issues at a much quicker rate(dont buy cheap stuff).

    If your truck is older, 15 yrs or so, you will probably be using the older rubber hoses and gaskets, which are vulnerable to the solvent in biodiesel. You'll want to replace them with FKM(Newer rubber or Flouroelastimers).
     
  11. heavyhaulerss

    heavyhaulerss Road Train Member

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    my truck is a 95 detroit. the filter I use is the same type filter I have been using for 15 years. donaldson p550463 a trucker friend who has a 2000 pete with a cummins fuels at the pilot & the loves & told me he has not changed his fuel filter on over 8 months, but used to change it every time he changed his oil cause that is what everyone told him he should do. I never had a problem until using this bio.

    in colder weather it is much worse I have had to change it before I left the driveway, just idle for 30 min back when we had that ice storm, filter went from 1/4 from bottom of filter to way past top just idleing. I do have black something on the wall of my tank. looks like soot. I attribute that to air. I do have air bubbles in my davco, not much ,not big, but I have them. after 3 years or so of bio I thought things would get better.
     
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