International S13 too good to be true?

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  1. plant

    plant Heavy Load Member

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    What's the catch?

    Surely, Cummins/Paccar/Detroit/Volvo have entertained the thought of "hey I bet we can get rid of EGR if we just use way more DEF/SCR".

    So why don't they? Getting rid of EGR sounds like a huge win for maintenance/reliability. Why is International the only one doing it? Why did everyone else decide against it?
     
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  3. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    The last "genius" engine idea International had that was supposed to be so much better than everyone else's engines was the Maxxforce...and we all know how successful that pile of horse excrement engine was.
     
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  4. Cat sdp

    Cat sdp . .

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    Ya, but either European or Australian trucks use that approach. I forget witch….
     
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    krupa530 Light Load Member

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    That new engine is a Scania engine
     
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  6. Heavyd

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    Current model S13 still does use EGR. It uses it very little, with no cooler. 2027 model is planning to omit EGR all together. Yes, SCR is that good now. S13 uses 2 stage SCR with dual injectors for DEF. One is behind the turbo, second injector is in the normal location before a catalyst.
     
  7. supersnackbar

    supersnackbar Road Train Member

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    But aren't their emissions regulations less strict than our 'California biased' standards the EPA is moving towards?
     
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  8. kah68

    kah68 Bobtail Member

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    No one with any seat time yet?
     
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  9. AModelCat

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    Former member on here I talk to has a couple of them and he seems to be quite happy with them.
     
  10. Deezl Smoke

    Deezl Smoke Medium Load Member

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    Charley's garage on youtube mentioned the scr is getting so good (non brand specific) that egr may be a thing of the past, period.
     
  11. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    It already is. Hate to say it but Europe is kicking the #### out of the US when it comes to heavy duty diesel engines.
     
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