Insurance for car hauler?
Discussion in 'Car Hauler and Auto Carrier Trucking Forum' started by ast26909, Mar 23, 2018.
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I have been shopping but it seems the insurance companies they conspire with one another, the only quote I got now is $24k. I have had no claims, the only difference on my DOT record from the time of renewal to now is one OOS due to incomplete log book (I did not log ONE day in the seven day period because on that day I only went to a location 50 miles from my base with proof and still got OSS). In the 13 month period I have had 8 inspections 4 of which have no violation, the other 4 inspections have violations: 3 OOS due to incomplete log book (driver didn't think logging was necessary not because of driving more hours than allowed) and one load securement.
What's these experiences have shown me is that the DOT officers they specifically target the pickup trucks, no doubt about this I have heard other saying this and once they stop you they don't like to walk away with no violation. Some officers are not as honest as they could be, some will include outright bogus violations and you need to read the inspection reports very carefully and dispute the inaccuracies on DataQ right away while they are fresh. The FMCSA likes to criminalize us, they use language like 'falsified or false log' for incomplete log, 'unsafe driving' for not stopping at the scale...Saifuzb Thanks this. -
With a loss to a brand new vehicle in-transit the insurance company has to pay the full retail price for the vehicle but does not get to take possession of it and sell it at a salvage auction, the manufacturer retains possession and has the vehicle crushed, so yes the insurance company is out the full retail cost of the vehicle which is why it is so hard to obtain insurance to transport new vehicles.
Now, as for diminished value, if a used vehicle is damaged, or even a new one that is not then crushed, the dealer must disclose the repairs which in theory reduced the amount they can sell the vehicle for making the insurance company not only cover the actual repair costs plus the perceived loss in retail value, and again because the dealer retains possession of the vehicle the insurance company has no way to recover their loss other than increased premiums.
What makes insurance so high for car haulers is the current state of the industry with every Tom, Dick and Harry deciding to get a truck and trailer and haul cars without any idea how to do so without inflicting transport related damages.DrDieselUSA and KANSAS TRANSIT Thank this. -
As for your log violations listed above, you can't just not log a day because it was only 50 miles, unless you maintain time records in compliance with the short haul exemption in 49 CFR 395.1(e) for the local days, as well as meet all the other criteria required to use the short haul exception, you must complete a record of duty status (log book) for every day, 365 days a year. So, no it is not "criminalizing" you, the DOT is exactly right, you presented a false log since it was incomplete and inaccurate.DrDieselUSA Thanks this. -
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The whole world is not a conspiracy against you. Re-read what you have written. You have admittedly failed half of your inspections & yet are ranting about IAG from 10 yrs ago? A bit of introspection & a little less tin foil hat tuning would go a long way.DrDieselUSA, Banker and brian991219 Thank this.
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