Basically, I came across a detailed guide on Meritor axle specifications
I noticed that they state the rated input torque for each axle ratio, which looks pretty handy. However, I'm curious about the ratings for the more extreme gears.
For example, their RS-160 axle is rated for 8,000 ft/lb of input torque when using the 7.17 ratio. In the early pages, they state that those ratings are the combination of gross engine torque and the shortest forward gear ratio.
but for such a low net input torque rating, would the guide mean normal 1st gear or the crawler gear? Considering that Eaton's brochure show off transmissions like the RT-9ALL with some pretty extreme reductions, I am left pretty confused.
I'm curious about a Meritor application guide.
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Epicdudejo, Apr 14, 2019.
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I had a DP404 40,000 lbs rear, I think the input torque on that was around 18,000 ft-lbs. An 18 spd on my MBE4000 could deliver 23,300 ft-lbs in bow low first gear at full power. Which I did once coming out of a farm yard in freshly turned soil climbing the access to the dirt road. The bearings in the front diff gave out shortly after that episode.
Yes the formula to calculate max input torque is full engine torque x lowest possible first gear ratio. So my DD16 at 1,850 ft-lbs and a 14.40 ratio low first gear would send 26,640 ft-lbs to the front diff input. So I couldn’t even use that axle with its fastest ratio of 2.80
I have RT46-160 so I could go as slow as almost a 5.38, I have a 3.91 which the axle is rated for 30,000 lbs. So I’m good to go.KB3MMX, swaan and Epicdudejo Thank this. -
Definitely going to keep this in mind =b
On the bright side, it means there's a reason to go with weaker engines aside from potential fuel economy.KB3MMX Thanks this. -
The main reason I overloaded the axle on the older truck. It was spec’d for 80,000 lbs work and had a 3.58 rear ratio.
I got the bright idea to switch over to pulling super b-trains, 140,000 lbs gross. So I changed the rears to 4.11 ratio, at the time I remember reading that guide and knew I could be overloading the input torque. But application at the time was all highway work, so on pavement I never had the need to use full power in the lowest gears.
Later I changed to pulling the same weights with super b-train hopper bottoms, now I was loading in farm yards and out in fields. Much tougher work environment.KB3MMX, Epicdudejo, Cat sdp and 1 other person Thank this. -
One thing I noticed, as far as current guides go, is that axles rated for 1,850 ft/lb engines are rated at lower GCWRs than the 1,650 ft/lb axles of the same model.
How easy is it to change an engine's torque output? Do you just adjust the turbo somehow or is it more of a pain than that? -
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In case anyone still wants to know, I actually read the section in Meritor's guide properly and came across this little tidbit.
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Interesting.
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