If you ever pulled a Papa John's trailer

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by SmoothShifter, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    Bzzzzt.

    They spend a lot of time manually unloading, actually more so than driving, unless you are out of Denver or Boise, where the stops are few and far between. Everything goes in the store one hand cart at a time.

    It takes 2 guys to unload a stop. In the past, when 3 went out, all 3 worked the stop. The only way I could see it working is if one guy gets to sleep while the other 2 work. Since all 3 get...

    ....all 3 typically work the store. Dunno, maybe it's changed. I've been gone for quite some time from there.

    Three to a truck. Top bunk has a restraint system, so I do believe it's legal per DOT guidelines. Don't know if any of you have attempted to sleep in the top bunk of a condo when it's bouncing down the road, but it's an exercise in kidney pounding to say the least. If an accident does happen, like a rollover, I would hate to be the poor s.o.b. sleeping up there.

    Personally, I do feel that especially for long haul, teams are the way to go. Less downtime, less congestion in truck-stops, better vehicle utilization, etc. On the downside, I don't think the quality of sleep is as good when the truck is moving vs. parked, especially if you happened to be paired with a co-driver who can't drive smoothly. But get ready, boys and girls, when fuel prices spike and the H.O.S tighten yet again, it'll happen.

    I just see this whole 3 to a truck thing as a convenient way to run the trucks stuffed to the gills, round the clock, back to back, non-stop and turn in nice tidy paperwork. Does driver #3 keep a paper log, while the other 2 use the electronic logs, BTW?

    You'll make money, but I wouldn't call it "legal tender...."

    For the record, I hope I'm completely wrong. It would be nice to see them actually practice "safety" than just preach it.
     
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  3. mrhoss

    mrhoss Bobtail Member

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    These Companys need to be EXPOSED and the Drivers need to look out for one another,
    after all the company's all stick together to talk about you, when you do something not in line,companys tell your next place of possible employment, they as you call it snitch you out,, THEY EXPOSE YOU AS A RISK OF A DRIVER ! I think it's great smoothshifter is exsposing these jerks march on brother march on...... :biggrin_25523:
     
  4. juice84

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    obviously the guys complaining have never done food service! example, a team goes out with 14 stops on a 600 mile route. driver 2 sleeps for the ride out maybe 3-4hrs then both drivers WILL have to unload to run the route on time then driver 2 has to drive back dead tired. oh yea, all our routes are overnight so that adds to the tired factor. then you get back and some may have to go right back out within 5-6hrs. the supervisors know no one runs legally unless its a solo route or with a helper but WILL come out and try to penalize you for it.

    ive worked food service 6 months and have never ran a route legally! this is with over 10 different drivers old to young and they always say this is how we do it. sounds like i need to quit right? dont worry, im applying to as many other local companies as i can right now.
     
  5. double_r

    double_r Heavy Load Member

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    Read my sig line.

    Papa John's was the worst job I had in twelve years of driving. Four years with a HHG company(they trained me to drive) and 3 foodservice companies. So ya, I have a right to complain.
     
  6. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Actually, my post was meant as humor. However, factually, there is no way all three could legally unload and drive. Not enough 10 hour breaks. But that is not a problem I have to deal with.

    As far as sleeping in the top bunk, that was where I was delegated when I was out with my trainer. It had no straps.
     
  7. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    My bad. I love to joke around in other threads, I'm not so lighthearted here. Sorry if I missed the joke.

    I actually got a little skeptical about even responding to the resurrected post. It's kind of funny, I got a few PM's from people confirming exactly what I iterated to begin with.

    In all my years of driving and fighting to stay awake, I would have to admit that my stint in the pizza hauling bizniz was the most dangerous. Unfortunately, most people who experienced what I did are reluctant to step forward for fear of being called a crybaby or soft and wimpy.

    So, nobody will listen until some family gets killed by an exhausted pizza hauler. And then the parent company will roll over and pretend they had no clue the drivers were pushing too hard. Which is c.o.m.p.l.e.t.e. bullschnizit.

    "Oh, but we had 3 to a truck..... there's no way they were running illegal...." :dontknow:

    If this industry would strike for one thing, and one thing only, it would be reasonable pay for reasonable hours worked.

    Ya, we want to make 65K a year, but we break every law written to do it.

    Show me one person in this industry who does $1300 a week and logs completely legal and legit. Just one.

    It's why I'm out. For a few years anyway. I'll only get back into it because:

    a. I love it and miss it and don't really need the money.
    b. If it becomes half of what it used to be 20 years ago.
     
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  8. Twitch

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    My thoughts,
    This is a prime example of why CSA is coming around. When you run drivers ragged like that what do you think is going to eventually going to happen? When a person only gets 3-4 hours of sleep, broken up with labor in between, how much sleep are they actually going to get? The next guy is going to start driving and dozing. Odds are sooner or later he's going to fall asleep and wreck, perhaps killing himself, his co-driver, and possibly anyone in four wheelers around. Whats to say he doesn't run through the middle of a Greyhound bus. I run teams, every time I go to bed I take the risk of my co-driver doing this. There is no way I would run something like that and be able to trust that my co-driver is not going to kill me. As for the snitching part. What is so wrong about calling a company out to warn other drivers. Calling DOT on them I believe is the right thing to do. The government pays zero attention to company's in till something like a fatlity accident happens.

    Twitch
     
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  9. Skunk_Truck_2590

    Skunk_Truck_2590 Road Train Member

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    lmao, you got that right for sure.
     
  10. brsims

    brsims Road Train Member

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    BTDT. Spent three weeks running food service. Never again. 18-20 hr. days, crap sleep, crap equipment. Thank the gods that particular outfit collapsed.
     
  11. CommDriver

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