How often do you grind gears.... Realistically

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Samarquis, Feb 4, 2021.

  1. Samarquis

    Samarquis Light Load Member

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    The title pretty much says it all...

    Everybody knows the struggles of a new guy learning to shift. Watching/listening as he revs it to the moon and grinds the whole way down on a downshift...

    What I want to know is... As an experienced driver, how often do you miss gears or grind them? Even just the little chirps/less than smooth engagements

    I'll be honest with no shame and say that I get a good smooth noiseless shift probably 90% of the time in my current truck, with some chattering on like 8% going in and the other 1-2 is the occasional miss that I have to catch afterwards. 10% feels like a lot to me lol. But I'm curious how smooth the lifers are, and how consistent that smoothness is.

    I'm aware that this is a very rookie-ish question to ask... But it's an awkward topic to bring up to my coworkers, and nobody wants to admit to grinding gears.

    Anyways.... Feel free to make me feel dumb lol. Thanks for any input in advance
     
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  3. Atlanta trucker

    Atlanta trucker Road Train Member

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    Now ... never. Last couple trucks were automated so no grinding is going on. Before that once in awhile but not to often.
     
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  4. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    There is a difference between grinding and an occasional scratch. A scratch from time to time happens. Fail to clutch properly or mismanage RPMs etc. An actual grind is much different. I have had mechanics show me gears with broken teeth etc. This is one reason I don't buy those things about a driver learning how to drive a manual in a few weeks or a few months. It takes a while to master this process without looking at a tach or speedo.
     
  5. Don379

    Don379 Heavy Load Member

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    There is a difference between grinding gears and snubbing gears. CDL SCHool attendees grind gears as well as new graduates. Professional drivers like myself SNUB gears a couple times a day. USually on a downshift. I shift all day long in local hauling. OTR guys not so much. They pretty much go into high gear and stay there for several hundred miles. Im lucky if i make it a mile by the time im stopping again. SO by the end of the day your mind is asleep. So grinding is when you are shifting with the gear shifter gripped tighly in your hands and you are pulling or pushing to hard on the stick. You can actually hear it grinding. That never happens to guys that have experience. Snubbing is when you are shifting properly by lightly gribbing or even just using 2 fingers to shift. When you arent in the right rpm range, you are moving the shifter so lightly you feel just a little rub on the shifter and when the rpms fall to the right range it kinda just pulls the shifter into gear on its own. im a clutchless shifter. i float. several hundred shifts a day with an 18 speed and using a clutch would never be possible and cause knee damage on a 6'4" guy like my self in a 379 cab
     
  6. PSM379

    PSM379 Heavy Load Member

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    I’ve been scratching more then often the last few weeks since I started running a older truck with a 5x4 in it. Getting smoother as time goes on tho. With my 18 speed in my old truck or any Eaton fuller, it was kind rare. I did it tho not afraid to admit it. My dad been driving for 50 plus years smooth as can be I’ve seen and heard him scratch a couple
     
  7. D.Tibbitt

    D.Tibbitt Road Train Member

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    I notice i grind when i get in a rush. Slow and smooth is the way u want to shift. Just take ur time and go thru each gear as smooth as possible .
     
  8. Ol'Shusquatch

    Ol'Shusquatch Light Load Member

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    I do good if I'm not concentrating on rolling a cigarette or typing a text message;)
     
  9. AModelCat

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    Oooooh the Gestapo gone be lookin' for you now!
     
  10. randomname

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    I shift smoother when I got less sleep the night before. If I am well rested I tend to force/rush the shift just enough to notice a difference.
    Anyone else experience this?
     
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  11. AKDoug

    AKDoug Medium Load Member

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    After 30 years, I still get messed up every once in a while. Half my day is spent on the open road, the other half in town. I shift a lot throughout the day. When I teach my guys to drive I make them do a two step count in their head...one out of the hole, two into the next hole. New guys tend to think they have to move the shifter in one quick motion.
    I taught my son to shift by letting him put his hand over my hand starting when he was 10 y.o. He could hear the rpm and feel the shift. Doing the same now with my daughter. Not going to be doing that with the dudes who work for me :D
     
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