How much weight is typically available on fifth-wheel?

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  1. KylerLaird

    KylerLaird Bobtail Member

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    I've been surprisingly unable to find information on typical weight distributions for trucks. It looks like total weight is somewhere in the 17-20k pounds range but I don't see how much of that rests on the drive axles. Given the bump to 13k on the steer axles, I'm guessing that most of the truck weight is going there. That would leave, let's say 4-8k on the (tandem) drive axles. So 26-30k is available for the trailer?

    If I have 25k on the kingpin, will everyone (except the RV-style sleeper folks) be able to haul it? When do I get into daycab-only range? 28k?
     
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  3. GypsyWanderlust

    GypsyWanderlust Medium Load Member

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    If you absolutely must know what the unladen weight is on your drives take it to a scale and for $11.50 you’ll have your answer. It would vary based on the truck and what kind of trailer you are pulling.

    As far as 13k on the steers, this isn’t true for all states. Check the weight and size table in your motor carrier atlas for various state limits.

    Have a good day and drive safely!
     
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  4. Confused

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    On the steers you can run up to 20k # if your axle and tire rating can handle it.
    I run at almost 15k# on my steers, but I have a 16k# axle and have 20 ply tires.
    Load I just had was gross 76780 # steers were at 14360 # drives were 31920. Trailer 30500.
    When Bob tailing steers are almost 15k
     
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  5. GypsyWanderlust

    GypsyWanderlust Medium Load Member

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    Indiana for example has a steer limit of 12,000 and mentions nothing of mfg weight rating. Just saying.
     
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    Confused Light Load Member

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    Never been bothered with steer axle weight in any state. Just saying
     
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    Ridlingdj Medium Load Member

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    I know that at 10,700 pounds on my front I can load a tractor with 43340 on my drives and 43320 on the trailer and never have any problems but what they are rated for is going to depend upon how you are set up there are to many options to say what your truck can do
     
  8. LoboSolo

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    Most tractors with a sleeper alone will weigh in the 17,000 to 20,000 lb. range. Daycabs are much lighter. Can't remember exactly but think that empty (tractor with sleeper and trailer, pusher axle and full 150 gal tanks), I have about 10,800 -11,000 on steers, 12500 on drives and just under 10000 on tandems. Depending on the trailer, the total rigs empty weight will be in the 27,000 and 34,000 lb. range. Fuel tank sizes, reefer unit, extra axles, etc will change those numbers.
     
  9. snowwy

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    Most flatbeds come in at around 32. With all their securement equipmen. Volvos seems to be lighter. 30ish.

    I've been seeing empty refers around 35.

    My daycab w900 weights 37750 with it's trailer.
    32000 with an aluminum tank trailer.

    I've only bobtailed once and both scales were closed. No idea on rear end weight.
     
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