How much should I charge to haul grain locally?

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  1. giddyup306

    giddyup306 Light Load Member

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    I finally bought a truck and 42' grain hopper. I used to haul my own stuff with a single-axle straight truck. My route was 28 miles roundtrip. Now that I have 3X the workload, and get slightly better fuel economy, I can go to the corn processing plant which is 60 miles roundtrip. If they pay $0.50/bushel more, that's $700 more on a 1100 bushel load. So for an hour or so more of my time (assuming that there is no line), and about $30 more in fuel, I can still clear $670. If it's my own stuff, that is pure profit! However, a couple of people that I work with told me to give them a quote on hauling. I figure it costs about $1/mile just for fuel. I don't know if I'd be able to charge by the mile, because if you're standing in line for a few hours... A lot of people pay by the load. I was thinking about charging 3% of the load. Does this sound fair? I don't want to screw the guy, and I don't want to loose money either. On a 900 bushel load, that would give me 27 bushel. At $6.50 that would be 175.50 - 60 for fuel. On 1100 that would be 33 bushel X 6.50 that would be 215 -60 for the fuel. So let's say I'd make $115-155 for a 60 mile trip.

    Does this sound fair for the both of us?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Not wanting to rain put a I wet blanket on this but off harvest rates tend to be very low. I have a very good relationship with one elevator and can get them upto about $1.70/mile, RT miles, on an average of 870 bu corn per load. The rate is set by the bushel in most cases so you just need to figure your miles, what you want per mile and do the per bushel math.

    My feeling is it is too low. I will help him out at times when he gets in bind but would never ask one of my drivers to do this at these rates. (I know, never do a favor but haul a lot of loads at very solid rates for them and plenty other business with brokers that I want).

    I would never look at hopper work for year round income. Get a van or flatbed and keep the truck moving that way. This is actually my business model. Keeping farm trucks moving during off season with other work.

    Look around at suppliers and you will be surprised at how many suppliers need vans on a year round basis. Then leverage your relationship as a customer to get some of those loads.
     
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  4. highside

    highside Medium Load Member

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    I'm going to assume you're running on private tags, without commercial authority. If that's the case, hauling for hire, no matter who for, is a big no no. You definitely won't make any friends with the for hire grain haulers in the area, and most likely will be reported once it gets out what you're doing.

    Now, if my assumption was wrong, and you've got commercial authority, then $0.27/bu. would be a fair rate. You wouldn't be gouging the guy, and you'd make a few $$ for your time. 99% of the time, grain pays by the bushel. The time you spend waiting in line should be reflected in your rate.
     
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  5. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    What you say is now "free and clear" you may want to rethink, as your maintenance and operating costs have changed from the straight truck.
     
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  6. giddyup306

    giddyup306 Light Load Member

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    I forgot to mention that my primary income is farming. This is just mostly for my own stuff, and doing a bit of side work (see below). I'm just looking for part-time or seasonal work.
     
  7. giddyup306

    giddyup306 Light Load Member

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    I have farm plates. Here's the deal... I work with this guy. He drills beans for me, and I will haul for him. I can't argue about the legality because I'm not 100% sure, but, a lot of farmers do the same thing and have it labeled as "exchange of labor" on their tax forums.

    He helps me out, and I'd like to help him out too.

    So does anyone think that 2.50/mile would be fair? We'd both be making about 100 extra. For the 27 CPB, he'd haul it himself. BTW I am 100% debt free on the truck and trailer...
     
  8. giddyup306

    giddyup306 Light Load Member

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    Before I started driving a truck, I spent 10 years as a mechanic. I can do 95% of the service work myself.
     
  9. Hardlyevr

    Hardlyevr Road Train Member

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    That's great, but I'm guessing you probably don't grow your own tires, oil, u-joints, and who knows what else!:biggrin_25525:
     
  10. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    If he agrees to 2.50/mile then I'd say it is fair. You will be able to cover fuel and maintance and you will also be helping a fellow friend. As for the legality of it I dot really see how it can hurt. If DOT was to stop you, just tell them it is corn from your own field. The kernels do not have serial numbers lol!!!
     
  11. KajunTankerYanker

    KajunTankerYanker Light Load Member

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    farm tags make dot moot, we do it at home all the time easy way figure your cost per hr multiply by 2 that's what you charge, figure all cost, wear and tear etc, that's how we do it, if they want a mile price/bushel just do a little more math
     
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