How many miles per year OTR to be considered “full time”

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  1. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    Now I know that’s not the only factor that goes into deciding if you’re a “full-time OTR driver” or not. But I’ve been thinking...

    I jumped on a “part time” driving job with a new company. I can basically drive whenever I want. As long as I drive like about ten days a month minimum. In exchange for being part time, I don’t get any benefits whatsoever of any kind. No medical, no retirement, no 401(k) contributions, no disability insurance, no dental, nothing. And I’m paid about five cents less per mile than full-time drivers. not eligible for some bonuses etc. ok, fine.

    But here’s the thing, well I do pretty much write my own schedule I’ve calculated that I’m going to drive between 105,000-112,000 miles my first year. I know for a fact as I’ve spoken to them there’s several “full-time drivers“ that drive less than that per year for this company. One guy drives four days on and takes 2.5-3 off and only drives like 92-95k miles a year.

    Should I approach HR, and ask if I can get health insurance?

    Now I know many of you are going to come back on here and see how you drive 150,000 miles plus per year. That’s not what I’m asking. I’m asking what do most companies consider the threshold for being a full-time driver OTR in miles?
     
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  3. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    It’s probably more to do with availability to dispatch you versus miles ran. When you took the job did they say how often you’d be dispatched or did you answer the ad and say I’m only available this many days a month? The company job I had for 10 years was considered full time as we were expected to work Monday to Friday and most years I ran about 110k miles.

    When you do work is it pretty high mileage days? If you have 10-12 high mileage days a month you’d be creeping up on 90k miles for the year, but you’re only working 3-4 days a week. I’d say no harm in approaching them about it but maybe in their eyes you need to be available 5-6 days a week to be considered full time.
     
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  4. F4T6UY

    F4T6UY Medium Load Member

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    I don’t know specifically, but 100k miles a year sure sounds like full on OTR to me.

    Thats 2000 miles a week for 50 weeks. As good as you’re gonna get at some mega’s.
     
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  5. F4T6UY

    F4T6UY Medium Load Member

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    That makes more sense. “Available for dispatch” is how most companies look at it.
     
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  6. buzzarddriver

    buzzarddriver Road Train Member

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    Just doing some basic math, say 110,000 miles per year, at an average speed of 60mph you would be driving 33 hours a week. I believe the Federal Government considers 30 hours per week full time.
    So, i think you are really full time. Only a chat with HR will give you their opinion. The "part time" moniker may be just a way for them to save paying your backend costs(legal or not).
     
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  7. okiedokie

    okiedokie Road Train Member

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    100,000 mi/yr x 10 yrs = 1 million miles. That's full time.
     
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  8. Numb

    Numb Crusty Curmudgeon

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    I believe, the insurance co sets the parameters on who gets what and when
     
  9. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    If you do talk to them about it I would avoid comparing yourself to what their full time drivers are doing. I’d simply ask the determining factor to be considered part time.
     
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  10. Midwest Trucker

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    You should at least make the same per mile. I understand no insurance or anything else.
     
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  11. buddyd157

    buddyd157 Road Train Member

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    so, you're a 1099 driver?

    you agreed to the terms at time of hire.

    you are most likely "available for dispatch", which means they can say they have no work for you.

    then too, (if i recall) you must work x number of weeks, at over 35 hours each week, to be considered full time.


    How Many Hours Is Considered Full-Time?
    Short answer: Full-time employment is usually considered between 30-40 hours a week, while part-time employment is usually less than 30 hours a week.

    Long answer: The answer is not quite as simple as it sounds. Here’s why. The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) has no definition for part-time or full-time employment, and employers may determine their own definitions. However, according to the IRS, for purposes of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), the following definition is used:

    A full-time employee is, for a calendar month, an employee employed on average at least 30 hours of service per week, or 130 hours of service per month.

    Part-Time & Full-Time Classification Matters
    Misclassifying Part-Time and Full-Time Employees Can Cause Fines or Penalties
    An employer may inadvertently misclassify a worker as part-time, when in fact, the employee is classified as full-time under the ACA. This could cause benefits-related penalties for the employer. For example, if an Applicable Large Employer (ALE) under the ACA should offer benefits to a full-time employee but does not, the company may face fees or penalties.


    Part-Time vs Full-Time Employees: What Are the Qualifying Hours? | Justworks

    re-read this part again:


    The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) has no definition for part-time or full-time employment, and employers may determine their own definitions. However, according to the IRS, for purposes of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), the following definition is used:

    A full-time employee is, for a calendar month, an employee employed on average at least 30 hours of service per week, or 130 hours of service per month.
     
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  12. REO6205

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    @Lennythedriver ...Your company is taking advantage of you. It's a great situation for them but it's a lousy deal for you.
    The company is getting what amounts to a full time driver and not paying any of the associated costs.
    I can't tell you what to do but how long do you figure to work like that?
    There are a lot of good driving jobs out there.

    We have some part time drivers...retirees, LTL line haulers, even a couple of WalMart guys... and the way it works is that they call us and let us know when they'll be available and for how long. It might be just a day or it might be a couple of weeks. They get regular hourly scale for whatever we put them on but no benefits of any kind.
     
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