How big of a dozer can I haul?

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  1. Oxbow

    Oxbow Road Train Member

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    D6R or T with standard track pads is narrower than my 8'6" RGN. Gauge is 74", standard track shoes are 22", for total width of 96".
     
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  3. Dirty-Low-Walker

    Dirty-Low-Walker Medium Load Member

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    Yes it is!
    My point is that nobody knows if the machine has a option on the pad width, standard is 22", LGP is 36" but you can have one with 32" pads that would be over 8'6" but not labeled a LGP.
    28",30" 32"34", depends on how it was ordered.
     
  4. Hurst

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    Agreed about the ramps taking some abuse.

    I have the HD RAMPS kit and the ramps have cleated cross sections and after about 5 - 7 tracked machines,.. even the smaller 450 and D3 machines, they have a tenancy to bend or damage some of the sections enough to need a quick repair. Most welding shops charge me anywhere from a case of beer to upwards of $50. I just chalk it up to part of doing business.

    I had a bad experience a few year's back where the entire rear plate where the ramps were attached ripped off the trailer. When the heavier machines reach this point it's important to understand this is the weakest point and to take every precaution when loading the machines.

    With a beaver tail or dove tail, especially a steel trailer compared to my aluminum deck, I think his will be a little stronger than my trailer.

    I've never done a D6. I know it's too much for my ramps. I've turned away from even a few high track D5''s that had the ripper and winch back there. Just too much weight to send up my ramps. Not worth the risk of damaging my trailers.

    Also,.. both of my trailers have the side braces to help support the weight of equipment with the weight on the outer edges.

    And to be 100% honest here,... I've had more issues with heavy rubber tire machines on my deck than tracked machines. The weight on tracked machines i's more spread out vs the confined area of the tires. I did a 49k military truck and it damaged the deck on my Infinity where the fender comes up to clear the tire and there are no side braces and the side support is thinner. Had to have the fender and the deck repaired and put a couple braces under there to help prevent it from happening again. Haven't don't anything that heavy since.

    I agree with the others. RGN or a trailer specifically designed for equipment would be the better option. But can it be done with a step? Yes,.. I've done many over the last few years and my trailer is still in one piece.

    Hurst
     
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  5. Dirty-Low-Walker

    Dirty-Low-Walker Medium Load Member

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    Rubber tire machines, i have had issues with them too, and the lifts i move are half the weight of a military truck.
    had to replace decking in that area that was less then 6 months old, white oak 2.5" thick X 11" wide.
    Could't agree more!
     
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  6. Dirty-Low-Walker

    Dirty-Low-Walker Medium Load Member

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    Plus the weight being that much higher will make you think twice going through a curve.
    I moved a 740 months back, i think it was 14'3", but i didn't have any bridges to worry about but at the shop where is was being delivered to they had to push up on the power lines, also the center line of the tires were outside of the edge of the trailer "8'6", i don't use outrigger boards on ADT'S because they like to flip up as you go over the edge of them.
     
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  7. Oxbow

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    I have hauled 740s before, and on our short deck it is a real chore. We have to back up on to the rear bolsters, build a small set of boards for the front axle, then drive forward on to them in order to get the nose to clear the neck.

    730s fit perfectly on our deck with the nose to the back of the trailer.
     
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  8. rbrtwbstr

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    I hauled a 963 Cat on a stepdeck a few times. It was a 35 ton Dynaweld, beavertail with ramps. And yes, it was a little sketchy. But at 23 years old, I didn't give much thought to what could go wrong. That was around 2003ish.

    I hauled a couple tracked machines on that trailer. If you're going to keep using the stepdeck with ramps, invest in some old conveyor belts. Ideally as wide as the pads on the tracks. And long enough to lay them from the end of the ramps to front of the trailer. They help tremendously when loading steel on steel. I hauled alot of Amish steel wheel farm tractors that way too.
     
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  9. AUfan78

    AUfan78 Light Load Member

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    Whether the tracks over hang or not, unless you remove the blade it's going to be hanging over. The d39 komatsu we have at work will overhang slightly on one side with the blade angled unless we angle the entire machine.
     
  10. johndeere4020

    johndeere4020 Road Train Member

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    Well first you speaking in absolutes, a D3, D4, 450 Deere, D31 Komatsu etc will not hang over at all. Second the width of the blade has zero to do with the placement of the tracks or load concentration on the side rails.
     
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  11. AUfan78

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    True.
     
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