Hey guys so i was driving the other night and i came across something that got me a bit concerned and i wanted to see if i could get some answers and thoughts.
I was climbing a hill at night and i seen a large load on a trailer. It was a backhoe.
The driver was going pretty slow and i dident think anything of it untill i passed the driver and had to look twice cause i couldnt believe it was a hotshot pulling such a large load.
Thats when my mind started asking questions.
My concerns was about a runaway.
On a semi we have breaks on all axels and wheels. and if we had to stop we would be able to even on a upgrade.
But what would happen to a pickup pulling a trailer with such a large load, Do those trailers and pickups that have 5 wheels have any breaks on those trailers?
And would a pickup have the power with its breaks alone to prevent such a large load to from running away and pulling him back down the hill?
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by TommyTrucker88, Oct 20, 2018.
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Yes they have trailer brakes, and a backhoe is b**** weight for a dually.
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They do, but not enough.
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I seen a farmer hauling his tractor down a grade with a stup like that doing 80.
No way they would be able to stop if they needed to. Probably needed to go that fast just so the brakes wouldn't catch on fire... -
Those types of trucks have the same standards [to set maximum GVW’s] applied to them as any other trucks, such as the typical class 8 truck you’re comparing to.
But anything can be overloaded but the point is he has a vehicle permit that states the maximum allowable gross vehicle weight that any law enforcement agency will use to see if he’s operating within legal bounds.
Trailers, too must have sufficient brakes, suspension, and design characteristics in order to obtain a given weight certificate (title) from the state
You can’t build a lightweight trailer like an 8 foot one-axle uhaul moving trailer and title it for 8,000 pounds GCWbrian991219 Thanks this. -
His truck more than likely has a transmission brake as well. Like your truck has the engine brake. So, it is a ton better than descending down just on brakes alone. Back in the day when I drove a F550 16' flatbed. That tow/haul trans brake was a life saver.
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Unless you mean a Trackhoe, and the diesel 1 ton pickups are coming with exhaust brakes now. I had a 1 ton Dodge Dualley with Cummins Diesel with exhaust brake that worked very well. Before that was a Chev. 3/4 ton Duramax Diesel with an exhaust brake that worked good too, but a big trackhoe would be too much for a pickup and a gooseneck trailer.
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Coming from someone who started with a 1 ton dodge dullay with an exhaust brake and a three car trailer and then a double deck 4 car trailer .
The braking system is not even remotely close to effective in a panic stop let alone a down hill runway with like a broken drive shaft or something.
I now run a full air brake tractor and trailer and would never go back to that set again.
Also it’s not just the braking systems alone there are so many other issues ranging from ability to handle weight to sleeper arrangements. -
Also, what size backhoe are we talking about? There’s a pretty big difference between for example a 480 Case and a 710 John Deere.Grubby Thanks this.
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