I have a 2006 isx cummins 500 that is driving me nuts. Here is what the problem is, i lose power when pulling hard and on takeoff. Blows lots of black smoke. So far i have changed the egr valve and cooler, exhaust pressue sensor, cleaned all sensors and tubes. new turbo actuator and speed sensor, today KW of PA did a egr test, air to air test,and an overhead adjustment. they checked the fuel pressure and it was good. they found air the fuel line so they by passed the delvco 382 and the air went away. so they figure its the delvco 382. they left it by passed because they didnt have one in stock. on the way home it was still smoking and losing power and lag when pulling hard. turbo boost is 35lbs on a good day, but it drops down real quick to 20lbs around 14hrd rpms the slowly picks back up to 30 when pulling. running out off options, and also the pocketbook is getting low,any help would be greatful.
Help!!! Cummins isx 500
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by NEWMAN67, Dec 22, 2011.
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Here is my .0002 on this,,,, vgt turbo variable geometery turbo, the vanes and actuator have to be timed if not it will run like a dog been there done that. Even new turbos will be wrong.
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The mechanic never mentioned the turbo, but the manager of the place talked to me about the issue and he did mention what u are talking about.
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Hard to say for sure, but sounds like you have changed and tried everything else, the vgt is the only other thing i can think of. The only other option i can think of would be the ecm. -
I second the ECM. Would be nice if u could get a loaner to try first though
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are there any fault codes? i imagine with all of this going on there has to be something. also, did they check the fuel pressure while under load when this problem occurs? the fuel gear pump might not be able to keep up....
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I would absolutely have the fuel pressure tested while the truck is under load. I have had mechanics hook up a gauge before and sit in the cab while we take it for a rip. You need to know if the pressure is high enough, and if it is fluctuating or not.
Also, it very well could be the turbocharger. ISX turbo's are probably the worst for reliability I have ever seen. Most last about 300,000 miles, some make it more, some less, but the average seems to be about 300,000 miles. VG turbo's are an immense pain in the rear, and very costly.
Personally, if I owned the truck, I would get PDI to replace the stock exhaust manifold with there after-market one, and then they can put on a plain jain turbo with no VG.
Watch out for the head gasket. My dad's 2006 ISX started leaking oil at the rear, the common problem on these engines. After that he started losing turbo boost, would never go over 28 PSI, normal for him is about 38-40 PSI. Went on like that for a month, then one day a few weeks ago she just started smoking white like crazy and there was anti-freeze in the oil, she was cooked. It's in for a full in-frame now and the real kicker was, only 1 piston was burning coolant, the other 5 were in great shape. The truck had 1,150,000 KM on it (714,576 miles)
Needless to say, the ISX is a junk engine in my opinion. It eats way to much exhaust. Exhaust has microscopic pieces of carbon in it, which are like sand to an engine and precision parts. Would you body perform well if you ate your own excrement? Of course not.
Cummins parts have been getting worse and worse. They use cheap metal, and not enough of it. I am extremely unimpressed with there pistons and connecting rods, there good for paperweights on your dispatchers desk. It reminds me of how Dodge advertises there pickup trucks with a "FREE CUMMINS DIESEL, NO CHARGE UPGRADE TO DIESEL" That is hands down the worst engine in existence, there's a reason that piece of crap is free. It's in the right pickup though, Dodge is the worst out of the big 3 and it's been proven time and time again, cheap junk, just like Cummins.
The best thing you can do short of ripping it out for a single turbo Cat transplant, is remove the EGR valve, cooler, VG turbo, factory exhaust manifold and intake manifold. Replace all of these with after-market solutions, and that is as good as an ISX will ever get.LBZ Thanks this. -
There r no fault codes. There is a small amount of oil buildup on the back of the engine. I think he did a fuel pressure test, but it was done in shop, not on the road under load. I would love to do all them upgrades tank, but the extra money is gotta build back up first, spent about 3500.00 on trying to make it run right already.
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Veggto05, it does it empty or loaded, just a little throttle on a grade will make it smoke, as for the turbo lag, if i stomp on it on a grade it will lag then slowly pick back up. In 10th when im pulling at about 14rpms just before it shifts it will drop from 32lbs to 20lbs fast then pick up real fast till it shifts again.
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As I said, be very mindful of a head gasket failure.
Oil at the back of the head is exactly how my dad's problems started. After a while, started losing boost, and the head gasket let go. Now it's in for a $25,000 in-frame.
The problem with the ISX is to do a head gasket, your 75% of the way to an in-frame, so if your engine is already old, and you do a head gasket, there's a good chance something else will pop less then a year down the road, and now your paying all that labor twice instead of once.
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